isilra-rogue
isilra — Wed, 03/26/2008 - 07:28
Character
- Name: buddy (isilra is toon name)
- Class: Rogue
- Race: Night elf
- Level: 70
- Playtime at 70: 108 days
- Overall Playtime: 134 days
- Average playtime per week: quite a bit, id say 8-10hrs some times
- Good computer/internet connection? yes
- Do you dc/lag a lot? no
- What is your average latency? 30-40ms
- Server you are currently on: Gorgonnash
- How long have you been on that server? since last january
- Link to your armory: http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Gorgonnash&n=Isilra
- Talents:
- What build do you currently use to raid? 20/41/0
- Explain why you have chosen this build for raiding: imo most dps
- Would you be willing to re-spec as required by the guild/encounters? yes
- Tell us a little about how you see your class contributing to a raid: well i do really good dps, and believe that my dps will speak for itself as far as contributing to the raid, and i play careful cuz i dun like to wipe raids, i have never wiped a raid before in all raid history
Raid History
- Raid/Instance Experience (pre & post bc): naxx til four horsemen & bt til reliquary of souls
- List the instances you have experience in, and the farthest you have been in that instance: done all fight up to reliquary of souls in bt and done all of hyjal as well
- What is your favorite 25-man BC Boss encounter, and why? gorefiend cuz i get to be a mage!!!
- What is your least favorite 25-man BC Boss encounter, and why? i didnt like vashj, too much that could go wrong
- Previous Guilds - Why did you leave them? How long were you there?
Oblivion- i was there from about january last year til about...july maybe, my brother got gkicked and so i left to play with my brother, but i didnt get kicked, it was why i xfered to the server
hellbound- guild fell apart
sarcasm- guild fell apart
bloodfaith- just wasnt me really, they are good players, prolly best i have played with, but i am not a fan of collecting scraps
mayhem- currently in now, they play favorites cuz they are all real life buds and i quit getting invites cuz a irl friend of gm came to guilds, plus i can stand wiping in hyjal, so this is why i am planning to leave
Alts
- List the names of any alts you may have, along with their respective levels, classes/specs, and races.
- Is this app for your main alone, or would you also like to have your alts in Downfall? just for my main
General Questions
- We receive a lot of applications. Why should we recruit
you? (Please link a WWS report or screenshots of damage/healing meters
to demonstrate your performance in a raid setting, if possible.) sine 2.4 i havent figured out how to get swstats to show - Why have you chosen to apply to Downfall? i love progressing and it seems like you guys do too, not only that but you appear to have lots of guild stability which means alot to me too
- What do expect to get out of Downfall membership? hopefully raids
- How do you feel you will contribute to the downfall community? as a rogue i can say dps, and i try hard to help others out
- Do you have any references in Downfall? not really
- How long do you intend to stay in Downfall? plan to make it guild home!!!
- What things might cause you to leave? um since obliv i have been bouncing around trying to find a guild that just does what is necessary to progress, no i guess not progressing
- Schedule:
- If you are applying to raid, which nights can you raid? all and any
- Can you consistently stay up until 10pm server time on these nights without whining or burning out? heh yeah
- What time zone are you in? central
- How often do you think you would have to miss raid? not often at all
- What might the typical reasons for this be? maybe work but i hardly work nights
- Read the pages found here at this link. Does everything there seem fair? yes
- If you had to choose, would you put Cisper or Shinzwei on auto-follow? i guess cisper...?
- If Shihli tells a joke (good or bad), will you laugh? if it is bad i may chuckle
- How many spelling mistakes are in your app? :p (serious) dun know, there are lotso f abbreviations...that might be mispelled :-p
- Your ass or a hole in the ground i can always dig new holes i guess
- Anything else you would like to add? not really just hoping to cathc an invite or a message for an invite
UI
- How do you feel about mods, particularly in a raid setting? dun mind them
- Please post a screenshot of your UI by using the "Attached Images" link below. as of right now all that shows is omen
- List the mods displayed in your screenshot and give a brief explanation of why you like each of them. i use dmg meter and omen, i dun think it is a secret why i use them hahaha
- Are you willing to change mods that don't interface well with ours in raid? yes
Personal
- How long have you been playing WoW? going on my 3rd or 4th year, i think three so starting my fourth
- How old are you? 23
- Tell us about yourself. i ran tack and field went to nationals, one thing i was really proud of, but yeah i am chill and get along with most everyone
(Optional Section)
- Are you in school or working? both
- Any other significant hobbies? basketball and running and partying
- What Country/State do you live in? texas!!!


Isilra was given plenty of
Shihli — Sat, 04/12/2008 - 10:12Isilra was given plenty of opportunities to prove he wasn't a rambling jackass, and blew each and every one of them.
Application denied.
I am taking a liking the
Barqz — Sun, 03/30/2008 - 16:03I am taking a liking the steak in the mouth idea.
Live Every Moment, Seize Everyday
Signed up 2 days ago
isilra — Sat, 03/29/2008 - 22:26Signed up 2 days ago figured~
This coucldn't
hurt! and bam I push da button! I will be at least legally sober but
can't promise i won't have a steak in my mouth.
Good point Jasmynn.
Shihli — Fri, 03/28/2008 - 16:33Good point Jasmynn. Excellent point, in fact.
I responded in what I viewed to be similar tone, which isn't really fair of me.
Isilra, if I have an opportunity this weekend I'd dig doing a Mag's Terrace with you. It's short, it's good for rep and it's also a decent demonstration of a player's abilities.
If you can't find me on Shihli, find me on Luchs.
Patrolling for you nonstop
isilra — Fri, 03/28/2008 - 19:27Patrolling for you nonstop till you agree to come!
And luv u jaz!
I'd also like to bring you
garreth — Fri, 03/28/2008 - 23:33I'd also like to bring you to our Sunwell wipe-fest on Sunday evening. Sign up over there -->
There will be repair bills and a lot of wipes. We don't expect to get any bosses down, but there are plans and gear we'll bid out on our raid points. Should be kind of fun, if only to see new stuff and get a feel for where we need to be dps and healing-wise.
You can't blame Isilra for
Cisper — Fri, 03/28/2008 - 16:27You can't blame Isilra for being arrogant while everyone else who (Mostly) has been condescending in their tone and use of wording.
my $.02, We have many
Dikymo — Thu, 03/27/2008 - 22:03my $.02, We have many arrogant dick bags in this guild. I am one of them and am friends with the others(you know who you are, yes Im talking to you and btw YOUR MOM). The real problem here is that you are a rogue and we have 6 million.
Are you willing to sit around and fill in when needed?
are you willing to put your gear aspirations aside and step out of a raid when needed?
When you do the hokey pokey and turn yourself around, which way do you turn?
FOCUS... ok im done. I had a point when I started writing but it's long gone now. Enjoy your stay in Azeroth or outland or whatever.
Secretary vice president to the vice president's secretary of the department of redundancy department
Yes i'd be willing to fill
isilra — Fri, 03/28/2008 - 09:19Yes i'd be willing to fill in, yes i'd be willing to sit out, and when I do the hokey pokey i turn to the right.
I've
been tyring to play with some of you guys in game but it seems yer
pretty busy(at least the ones i've spoken to) so basiclaly the
only person that has any experience playingwith me or who i have any
repore with is jasmynn.
I understand you say to build repore over
the website, but i feel playing with me in game is a quicker way than
trying to decipher what is and what isn't bs on a forum. Don't get me
wrong I'll continue answering and posting, but I'd like to push
avtually playing with some of your members, particularly some of the
local guys like your texans and the rogues like saedo shihli eqiges and
barqs.
I'll lurk on your vent for a few days, see if it helps :-p
I may through in Saedo is
Barqz — Wed, 03/26/2008 - 23:46I may through in Saedo is our Rogue of Rogues in guild. Not only can he go toe to toe with shin, he can also chart, number crunch, and plan out the best dps rotations not just for 1 but 3 of the major pve dps styles, and he came in somewhat under the raidar. I think the rest of us have all picked up a little something from him in one way or another. What does this have to do with you? Well like i said he was somewhat under the raidar. Its good to sell yourself on what you know, what you can do, but its not wise to assume you can top current guildies in your app, remember these are stepping stones to your way to the top, these are going to be your fellow guild mates. People who you are going to have to rely on in and out of raid..This is a big part of where personality comes into play. When downfall asks what can you bring to the guild/raid, I hope you can have something more than just dps, because you need to be a colorful person too...(not trying to be a dick) So how bout you tell us more about you on a personality level?
Live Every Moment, Seize Everyday
Well because i don't know
isilra — Thu, 03/27/2008 - 11:14Well because i don't know how i well mesh wiht you guys till i raid
with you. The only thing i will no for certain is that I will not need
to be carried because I play my class well.
It's always hard to
define your own personality and not sound like some cheesy match.com
paragraph, but i'm very easy going and unintrusive.
I tried
to make it very clear that it was not because I thought I'm amazing
that i can play my class, but because dps in pve with a rogue is mind
numbingly easy. I assume everyone who takes it at all seriously can do
it. Step 1 spec combat swords, step 2 button mash.
I went as far
as to say that current rogues that outgear that may play in a similar
fashion will out dps as much as their gear lets them. I don't see the
line of arrogance there, just an assumption that if the rogues in this
guild gear spec and play optimally, I will still stay close as close as
my gear lets me. Anyone not playing optimally, I am fairly certain my
gear is nto far behind enough that I will not out dps them. Luckily 1/5
rotations and vengeful swords keep my less progressed gear close enough
that I can out dps players who are not playing optimally with slightly
better gear. A 200 aep gap in gear is pretty easy to close if the
player doesn't time tirnekts with ar or consistently messes up on
rotations just as examples.
Trust me, in raids I am not pompous.
I don't post damage reports, I don't make random noises, but most
importantly, I don't mess up. I don't know what I can say that will
tell you my personality, but I'm serious about pve and will be prepared
as such. I'm very helpful outside of raids with whatever someone needs
help with but mostly I pvp and respec everyday to pvp.
I hope this has at least given you some answer to what you were asking.
I dunno, you're still kinda
saedo — Thu, 03/27/2008 - 11:49I dunno, you're still kinda coming off arrogant. You say you don't mess up, achieve perfect optimal cycles for dps, etc. But I'm gonna assume you're a human in RL and humans can and do make mistakes. Shit happens. Are you trying to say you're the perfect super human rogue?
You also seem to sorta, talk the talk of knowing theorycrafting throwing a few of the terms around. So let's talk a bit about your gear now. Yea your Vengeful swords do bring ya up from the rest of your gear, which isn't all that bad. Though there's a red flag for one piece which I gotta question why you would wear it. Can ya figure out which one I'm talking about?
ohoh I want to play...Is it
Desteran — Thu, 03/27/2008 - 12:05ohoh I want to play...Is it the Stylish Black Shirt? Sorry couldn't help myself :-P
My guess would be malefic
isilra — Thu, 03/27/2008 - 13:08My guess would be malefic mask?
I dun have t4 helm, so i make do.
Honestally i gotta say i'm
Grasen — Thu, 03/27/2008 - 21:30Honestally i gotta say i'm not to thrilled on your app thread so far. So far you have been unable to mesh to well on the site. I personally think that is the first thing that should be acomplished before giveing a trial to an app. We are a huge site friendly guild. Most of our planning and damn near everything else takes place here. If you cant mesh here on the site I honestally dont see a reason why we should move forward. I'd like to see you take the next week or so and interact on the site (more than just your app thread) and build some repore. Just my 2 cents.
To be quite honest, a "large
Shihli — Wed, 03/26/2008 - 16:37To be quite honest, a "large answer" shouldn't just be told to someone that's not a raid officer.
If it's really that private and it's hanging over your head (and I can't say I've heard anything positive about Steelstud), send a PM to Garreth.
was talking to her more as a
isilra — Wed, 03/26/2008 - 22:22was talking to her more as a firend, and garreth alrdy knows the scoop.
Basically its not steel raiding.
I can speak for Isilra, he
Cisper — Wed, 03/26/2008 - 16:12I can speak for Isilra, he does have really outstanding DPS. I have no doubt, that he is a skilled player and knows all aspects about his class.
Suffice to say, drama seems to gloom over you, Steelstud, where-ever you're present. Are you going to bring this to Downfall? cause we don't want any.
Skill doesn't outweigh (Except in my case!) douchebaggery... well, doesn't outweigh being a total asshole. Can you promise that? Can you bite your tongue and handle our wipes?
There's a actually a pretty
isilra — Wed, 03/26/2008 - 16:26There's a actually a pretty large answer to that I'll talk to ya about in game.
Your my third favorite aussie ever, what is this nonsense about your douchebaggery?
oh, sorry, the "always
Epatrick — Wed, 03/26/2008 - 12:17oh, sorry, the "always prepared thing" wasn't directed at the applicant rogue, it was for a certain texan :) my apologies for derailing your application thread, carry on
Again, I'm only asking
Shihli — Wed, 03/26/2008 - 12:05Again, I'm only asking questions because I see some little ... loose threads that ought to be taken care of.
Isilra, you mention that you can hit 1500 dps on a tank-and-spank, stand-and-dps fight. You also claim to be able to come in and beat our top rogues.
You're guilty of two sins here, at least in my book -
1) Claiming to be a 1500 dps rogue doesn't hold terribly much water when it's based on a fight that is designed specifically for that purpose.
I could have said I was a straight-A student back in college, based only on my performance in Organic Chemistry; just ... "ignore" that D that I got in Multi-Variable Calculus and that C+ in Process Design and Economics, and all those B's everywhere else.
I'd simply like to ask - what's your dps on fights that aren't simple tank-and-spanks (aka most of endgame nowadays)?
2) You're assuming our rogues don't know how to play. Please review our WWS parses (tab at the top of the page) and look at Hamfist raid parses. Saedo and Shinzwei do *a lot* of damage, and Ewiges does quite damn well considering he's daggers.
In short, over the course of one page I've seen you come in and say that you're 1500 dps and need a chance to show-up all of our raiding rogues. When questioned about it, you then go on to mention that you're 1500 dps only on rogue-friendly fights, and that you don't know what our rogues are doing (or even what gear they are using).
So yes, you did embellish your application a bit. I'd like to do a 5-man or something with you at some point, to gauge how well your playstyle reflects your application. :)
I guess I could work out
isilra — Wed, 03/26/2008 - 13:20I guess I could work out their rotations and trinket timings by
using some math and along with their wws parses, but i think its still
to me there with you, seing as you say you can put out 1900 dps, your
probably playing optimally with much better gear, but again wihtout
playing along side you i cna't sya one way or the other. One of the
brightsides to the long application process is that it gives chances
for trials. And thats what i'm looking forward to selling myself on,
not this application. maybe if your sunwell raid doesn't fill or lf1m's
hyjal raid dones't fill tonight i'll fill in. I'm really looking
forward to playing with you in either event.
I'm not saying
1500 dps is my peak out, on stupid crap like akama 2k is pretty easy, i
was speaking more generally with that 1500 number. Pretty much any of
the hyjal fights or the first 4 bt bosses 1500 is a pretty average
number there.
Either way I'd like to show you rather than tell
you so message me anytime for a 5 man, 10 man 25 man, old school 40
man, whatever. You can judge from playing with me, and thats the point
i feel like we are at and I'm really looking forward to it.
We're basically raiding
garreth — Wed, 03/26/2008 - 13:57We're basically raiding non-stop for the next 6 days (at least raids are planned and there's many many people ready to rock). Be on and available from 6pm onward. If there's a slot open for melee dps, we'll give you a quick try out.
Remember: One of our raids is on Illidan and the other is just now stepping into Hyjal for the first time. If the thought of wiping on Rage keeps you up at night, then you may not want to gamble here ;)
I'll come to either, i've
isilra — Wed, 03/26/2008 - 14:06I'll come to either, i've never done illidan and witht he amount of
chest pounding is done i'd rtaher do rage than illidan as my first
trial so i'm not out of my comfort zone but like i said i'd come for
either.
Does "prepared" also mean
Epatrick — Wed, 03/26/2008 - 11:57Does "prepared" also mean bringing enough gold for repairs? :x
epatrick~ yeh, i alrdy said
isilra — Wed, 03/26/2008 - 11:59epatrick~
yeh, i alrdy said i'd never need gold, ever.
well my non wednesday is a
Barqz — Wed, 03/26/2008 - 11:39well my non wednesday is a temp situation do to school. Once this "semester" is up i hope to have all 3 down. Idk we do have many active raiding rogues, and we have a nice dance cycle where if 1 isnt around another takes his spot for the night and vice versa...we seem to have a balanced setup amongst us. My concern is having someone else come in expecting to raid only to find its hard to squeeze him in because of all us oldschools that have been raiding with LF1M, since kara/gruul. Thats my opinion on the matter. only if we had 3 active raids.
Live Every Moment, Seize Everyday
one of my biggest pet peaves
Grasen — Wed, 03/26/2008 - 11:17one of my biggest pet peaves is people not showing up as prepared for raid as i do. by prepared i mean 2 flasks, plenty of buff food, scrolls if agi str or armor if they are key stats for your class (and assumeing the AH isnt chargeing 5g ea for em like tends to happen at times) etc etc. I like that i didnt even have to ask about it and it was part of your answer.
Part of an app is selling yourself. While you sold yourself well you may have gona a lil overboard lol. (not nessicarally a bad thing)
A screen shot of a ui can say alot about a person. Just because it's mostly stock doesnt mean its bad. Hell I play on a damn near stock ui myself and am one of the top dps'n hunters in guild. indulge us and go ahead and post a raid ui screenshot. while as a hunter it wont tell me shit it is part of the app. The app format and the questions on it are there for a reason. Thank you for elaborating on the why recruit you question more.
I don't think i oversold
isilra — Wed, 03/26/2008 - 11:39I don't think i oversold myself, but like i said you can find that
out by trial, I never have less than 4 flasks or 40 spicy talbuk.
Anyway I decided to go outside and gouge something for the ui pic so~
http://www.putfile.com/pic/7889199
feel free to browse for the 17 year old chick's boobs.
A note about Shihli rep
Shihli — Wed, 03/26/2008 - 11:04A note about Shihli rep -
Everyone starts out at hated.
There's only a handful of people with exalted Shihli reputation, and the rewards are:
- I drive out to visit you about once a month
- I periodically buy you crap
- I may be convinced to cook sometime (maybe)
- ... unmentionable stuff