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We got Afton in on the
garreth — Wed, 05/28/2008 - 08:51We got Afton in on the recommendation of the LF1M raid. Sounds like she kicked ass and chewed bubble gum. We like bubble gum. Welcome aboard :) App closed.
/agree I don't know her but
Ardea — Tue, 05/27/2008 - 10:33/agree
I don't know her but she makes me smile... possibly because Pancakes > waffles IRL.
Bump...give this woman a
Aidin — Tue, 05/27/2008 - 10:05Bump...give this woman a Ginvite already!!!!!
Fun Times in IRC:
[15:27] Dragonfork: aidin hates me this I know, for my repair
bills tell me so. many times my health is low, aidin laughs when i
explode. yes aidin kills me, yes aidin kills me.
Personally, my dearest
Aftonio — Sun, 05/25/2008 - 11:01Personally, my dearest Ratgirl and wedded WoW husband, I like pancakes better. You would know that if you were ever home in the morning for the family breakfasts we had always dreamed of. But, nooooo, you have to traips (spelling?) around Outlands with those filthy Blood Elf women doing Elune knows what with them.
"Afton" is to "people whom
Ratgirl — Sun, 05/25/2008 - 09:05"Afton" is to "people whom you should invite" as "waffles" are to "answers you should choose in the waffles vs. pancakes debate".
Here's lookin' at you, kid.
Aftonio — Sun, 05/25/2008 - 08:10Here's lookin' at you, kid. ;] I'd raise a beverage at you, but I don't have one handy right now.
AFTON=AWSOME Nuff
youshouldrun — Thu, 05/22/2008 - 21:34AFTON=AWSOME
Nuff Sed
nonono.. let me be more specific
Nicest most compliant helpful hilarious interesting thought provoking female hard working wow player ive ever met.
Id love to see her in guild.
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I would like to note my
carno — Wed, 05/21/2008 - 21:53I would like to note my experience with Afton, as I raided with her in Mayhem for a little more than a year. This includes from KZ all the way through Supremus in BT and down to 35% on Archimonde in MH.First thing is first, Mayhem would never ever take the time to go over things like this for a guildie, LET ALONE, in an app. Mayhem's entire objective is to place the best-geared, highest-XYZ player in a raid spot, no matter attendance, dedication, or skill.There were never any problems with Afton; she plays well with others and brings her A game.Afton is dedicated, skilled, and has good attendance and attitude at raids. She's a solid player and if DPS isn't showing up at the same level as other Downfall players, I'm sure it's only a (small) matter of time till it does.
I respecced and got pyro and
Aftonio — Tue, 05/20/2008 - 14:16I respecced and got pyro and blastwave. I also got belt of blasting made.
Rock on. We all still have
garreth — Tue, 05/20/2008 - 14:57Rock on. We all still have you on our friends lists for a mage fill in spot. Thanks again for yoru patience as we try to make sure you'd have a good home here.
No, thank you. BTW, I won't
Aftonio — Tue, 05/20/2008 - 16:15No, thank you. BTW, I won't be locked to Hyjal or BT from Mayhem because as you may know, they've stopped raiding completely as of late. So, I'm free for whatever adventure you may want to take me on.
Okay Afton, I'm going to
karlizeth — Fri, 05/16/2008 - 16:26Okay Afton, I'm going to guess you were expecting this, but to be very blunt the parses are not all that impressive. Now, that being said, that doesn't mean that we are going to kick you to the curb. Rather, these parses are what is going to serve as a baseline for comparison from here on out. What I would like to see from you is some significant in your overall dps.
You're over hit cap by far, and your spell crit could really use some love. Switch out a few of your gems.
I have a feeling two major things are contributing to your lowered dps.
First, I suspect that you are not using the best spells at the right time. Here's my rule of thumb for scorch: Take the number of people in your group and multiply it by 10,000. If a mob has LESS than that number of HP (i.e. a 25 man raids, mobs with less than 250,000 hp), DO NOT scorch. Just use fireball. If it's more, build your regular 5x debuff.
Paired with this is chain casting and not being afraid of aggro. Don't wait until a spell has completely left your hands to try and start casting the new one...Blizzard has built in latency and you can start smashing your buttons anywhere from 1 to .5 seconds before they are supposed to complete, and you'll end up casting roughly .2 seconds sooner.
When a mob is close to dead, switch to shorter length spells. I generally stop fireballing at less than 60,000 hp (scorch) and stop scorching less than 25,000 hp (fireblast).
The other big thing is managing your trinkets/icy veins/combustion/destruction pots etc. TRY TO TIME IT SO ALL YOUR FANCY STUFF IS AVAILABLE TO USE WHEN A MOB HAS LESS THAN 20% HEALTH. Doing this will significantly increase your dps. If you can persuade a shaman in your group to pop heroism at that time, even better.
In short, keep working on your gear, squeeze in more dps, and keep up the good work. I'll be eyeballing your future parses to see what you've learned.
P.S. - IMHO flamestrike = fail on aoe. I do far better dps with arcane explosion/blast wave/occassional dragon's breath (when it will hit a lot of mobs).
Had a chance to run with
Aidin — Wed, 05/14/2008 - 20:19Had a chance to run with Afton tonight. Was a pleasure to have in raid. She knew her stuff, and even got some phat lootz!
Check over the parses, I'm sure there's all sorts of great advice to help her out (insert Karli wall of VERY
GOOD text here). I noticed through each fight she steadily improved. (First DF raid jitters maybe? lol) Look forward to seeing you in more raids!
http://wowwebstats.com/5xlpsnbghjefm?s=8038-8098
I was pretty jittery, lol. I
Aftonio — Fri, 05/16/2008 - 12:48I was pretty jittery, lol. I wasn't actually expecting to get into the raid, so I wasn't ready with all my consumables when you guys summoned me the first 10 times.
I kept getting knocked into the catapolts during Supremus and I was afraid that if I went through it, I'd get stuck and he'd kick my tooshie. So, I went around it.
PS: I got Subtlety on my cloak, and I'm going to redo my spec sometime this weekend. I'd do it right now, but I'm running a bit late to hang out with some friends. Thank you again (so much) for giving me a chance to raid with you guys. It was deffinately a different, and good, experience.
I know Gruul/Mag is a little
Aidin — Tue, 05/13/2008 - 07:37I know Gruul/Mag is a little "old" but it's also a great raid to sign up for to get your face in the crowd!
Oops...guess I better get it posted...lol
We generally encourage guild
karlizeth — Tue, 05/13/2008 - 07:11We generally encourage guild apps to sign up for events like this, so I would say go ahead and put your name on the list and be online! (Does not guarantee an invite, but strongly helps).
Am I allowed to sign up for
Aftonio — Tue, 05/13/2008 - 06:40Am I allowed to sign up for SSC/TK runs? I know you'll bring people in the guild before me, but I'd like to be considered. =P
I know afton vaguely through
youshouldrun — Fri, 05/09/2008 - 05:55I know afton vaguely through vent chats while talking w/ other mayhem friends. Afton is awsome. I've never met anybody that didn't like afton and i doubt i ever will.
Afton=awsome
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Moar chicks FTW!!
Aidin — Thu, 05/08/2008 - 15:41Moar chicks FTW!!
I
Mavandon — Tue, 05/20/2008 - 15:37I agree...
Excellent...
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Hello, I'm Hamfists
Disrupter — Thu, 05/08/2008 - 17:08Hello, I'm Hamfists legendary frost mage <.< lawl.
I was just curious about your gem set up as well... I can completely understand the hit gems but spell crit is something I normally get as I go as either spec.
My dps bible - Hit to cap > Haste > Damage > Crit > Intellect > Spirit.
That being said , I heard some good things about your dps , and some bad things about your dps in the past. I personally don't know anything for sure, or seen any parses showing so, so I'll assume I didn't hear any of that.
Do you have any WWS parses that we can pour over? And what made you decide to gem 8 hit/8crit gems instead of gems like, 4 hit 5 damage and such? (Out of curiousity)
Do you know about Rawr? If not, you should do a little google for it, it's an amazing program that (amongst other things) helps you decide what gears best for you with which spec, what items are an upgrade, what gems to pick. It's amazing so, if you get nothing else from this, get Rawr ^^.
I'm still learning and
Aftonio — Thu, 05/08/2008 - 17:19I'm still learning and experimenting with gems. My crit is so low becuase I was trying to get hit capped. I'm used to working on one this at once but I guess I kind of can't lol.
I pretty much get whatever gems i can find on AH if noone is online to cut it.
Spell penetration is fine
karlizeth — Thu, 05/08/2008 - 14:47Spell penetration is fine when it's passive (i.e. [Hatefury Mantle] but gemming and enchanting for it is just not worth it. And as fire, threat is much harder to manage. When you're arcane, mana is your cock-block. When you're fire, it's threat. Or at least, if you're doing it right it is.
About the penetration
Aftonio — Thu, 05/08/2008 - 14:54About the penetration enchant, I can't remember doing that. So I think my ex boyfriend probably took over. He did all my enchants for me when I first started raiding. I just never changed it. =P
Side note: a 50/11/0 build
karlizeth — Thu, 05/08/2008 - 14:24Side note: a 50/11/0 build is kinda nice in that you can still do well in raid and lolpvp, but builds using icy veins are proven to be more dps (50/0/11 or 40/0/21). Not only that, but arcane missiles is a pretty draining "filler" spell for the AB debuff time, and considering your gear is still very low on int i would not recommend you use the arcane/fire build. I do cringe at an arcane/frost combo (namely because I'm fundamentally against frost, but moreso because they pair arcane with fire). But, frostbolt x 3 is a far less mana intesive filler than 1 x AM 1 x Scorch, so it's something to keep in mind.
But, I wouldn't even think of being arcane w/o a 2 piece T5 bonus to be honest.
Oh, I have my t5 shoulders,
Aftonio — Thu, 05/08/2008 - 14:51Oh, I have my t5 shoulders, I just don't really use them for fire since the set bonus is mostly for arcane.
Hello there, I'm Karli,
karlizeth — Thu, 05/08/2008 - 14:18Hello there, I'm Karli, Hamfist's (our Sunwell/BT/Hyjal raid) lone female dps-er. No Cisper, Holy Nova does not count.
Anywho, beings that 1) you play a mage and 2) you are a chick, that makes me especially interested in your app.
Okay so first off, I promise I am nice. Bratty, but nice. And this is actually a rare opportunity for me to tell a short story. Once upon a time, I was doing dailies in the netherwing mines, and saw a mage walk by from <Mayhem>. Knowing that Mayhem is relatively progressed, I inspected the mage and one of the first things that caught my attention was the belt off of Anetheron, which I had been drooling over for ages.
Imagine my surprise when I see said belt gemmed with *gasp* a [Radiant Talasite]. I think I must have cried a little inside.
So like....it's nice to finally meet you
.
Alrighty back to your app. To put it kinda bluntly, you still have a lot of upgrades to get. At this point in the game, raiding mages need to take things that are a 2 spell damage upgrade, even if it takes you hours to get it. I can already think of a few things you could and should snag if you want to remain competitive:
Please put Subtlety on your cloak, the penetration is probably making more than just me shake my head in shame.
Okay, next thing: spec. First starters, your crit is especially low for a fire mage. Mine creeps up close to 40% with raid buffs, even at hit cap. This is namely due to the fact that you don't have much gear with both hit and crit, and while it's awesome that you're at hit cap, you should work on upgrading those particular pieces that have hit only and/or only hit gems. An item like [Boots of Blasting] or [Belt of Blasting] can be crafted and have a lot of +dmg, crit, AND hit. Crit is really a fire mage's bread and butter, so if you don't feel like you've been keeping up on the meters I would suspect this is the one thing you'll want to keep an eye on to help you improve.
I'm with Dufe here, the points you put into Improved Fire Blast are really not worth the trade off for Dragon's Breath and Blast wave. Fire Blast should never really be seen as a "regular" part of a spell rotation, only as a situational filler. It's just not damage-per-mana efficient enough to justify. And the damage potential from aoe is just ridiculous for a mage these days in Hyjal, so it truly is a waste to not spec into them.
Alright so now that the whole "bla bla bla mage" stuff is out of the way, let's get on to other things. As you may or may not know, Downfall has a uniquely high number of female players, notably at the raiding level. Several of our top healers are women in their late teens to early 30s, and our other 25 man raid has a female main tank. So, in a nutshell, girls are generally welcome here with open arms.
Grov's a cool guy, and I would trust his referal any day. So that being said, mass points for being a girl end-game raider. Now let's work on your gear and maybe get you a little more knowledgeable about some of the inner workings of your class and give you a chance to show your stuff.
Last but not least, please feel free to browse through the mage guide I wrote in our handbook. It might have some stuff that could help you out. http://www.downfallguild.org/node/106
I've saw that alot of bosses
Dufe — Thu, 05/08/2008 - 14:38I've saw that alot of bosses have been given small (1-3%) resist levels to certain schools, so I decided to look into it a bit. Spell Penetration does help overcome this extra resist (seen on Supremus, Rage, some of Kael's advisors, etc). What I'm getting at is that if you're threat capped, then subtelty is definitely the better enchant, but if there's never a threat issue, then it is possible for small amounts of Spell Penetration to actually be helpful for certain bosses. Just depends on how your threat gen compares to the tank's.
If we can't guarantee you a
Katibug — Thu, 05/08/2008 - 13:30If we can't guarantee you a raid spot right away or in the near future would this be ok?
Afton, can you please post
garreth — Thu, 05/08/2008 - 13:29Afton, can you please post your UI? Just use the "Add Image" link on the middle column of the page and we'll all see it.