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Dufe — Thu, 07/10/2008 - 13:03

I heard you were looking for some mage advice and critiques.  Your armory currently has you spec'd frost, so the following gear suggestions will be based on that spec.

Your "to do" list at this point, in rough order of priority, is:

  1. [Sorcerer's Alchemist Stone] (BoP Crafted) would replace the Bloodgem
  2. [Tormented Demonsoul Robes] (Badges) + Restore Mana Prime Enchant
  3. [Belt of Blasting] (BoE Crafted)
  4. [Boots of Incantations] (Badges) + Boar's Speed Enchant
  5. [Spellstrike Pants] (BoE Crafted) + [Runic Spellthread] (Crafted)
  6. [Spellstrike Hood] (BoE Crafted) +
    [Glyph of Power] (Sha'tar Revered)
  7. [Enslaved Doomguard Soulgrips] Badges
  8. [Carved Witchdoctor's Stick] (Badges)
  9. Get to Exalted with Scryers for [Greater Inscription of the Orb]
  10. [Scryer's Blade of Focus] (Badges) + Soulfrost Enchant
  11. [Fetish of the Primal Gods] (Badges)

That's alot of badges, but it's good gear - some of which isn't replaceable until Deep BT or Sunwell.

I notice on the parses from last week's Gruul/Mag that your were fire.  If you are planning on gearing up fire over frost for PvE, let me know and I can revise your gear suggestions.

As far as your performance as fire spec, I only see one thing that would concern me.  Your ratio of Scorches/Fireballs seems off.  Too many scorches for the number of fireballs.  It can be rough, since you were the only fire mage there.  Two tips I would give:

  1. Refresh scorch early if you're about to have to run.  (Cube lciking on Mag, ground slam on Gruul)  It has a long enough duration that if you can get one on right before you have to run out, it should be able to last til you get back.  Having to restack the full 5 every time, especially by yourself, will cost you ALOT of dps - possibly more than just going without depending on the intervals.  This will come easier with experience.  If you're frost, you have a similar mechanic with stacking winter's chill, but seeing as how it's just attached to the primary nuke anyway, it's usually easier to deal with.
  2. Don't bother scorching on trash in 25-mans unless the mob has more than ~125k hp. (At the time you start attacking it).  You end up spending too much cast time on scorch's lower dps and never getting the real benefit since the mob dies by the time you get your first fireball or two off.

Regarding frost:  Blizzard still has not fixed the "ghost hit" issue with frost.  Basically there was a strange issue, seemingly with the Elemental Precision Talent, that gives frost spells 6% hit instead of the advertised 3%.  This means that for Frost, you only have to stack 126 spell hit to be capped, instead of 164.  Keep this in mind as you plan your gems.

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One ring you may wanna look

Alprazalam — Sun, 09/07/2008 - 20:57

One ring you may wanna look at is Ashyens gift.  It has 21 spellhit and 23 spell damage.  You get it from being exalted with Cenarion Expedition.  Kind of hard to do if you've never seen the inside of SSC but I'm almost there from running heroic coilfang instances anddoing quests.

I just recently hit 165 spell hit (I know I'm one over) and I'm trying to get it so I can either regem some stuff or get a better wand. Which my goal was to get spell hit cap.  I hate wasting 3 secs and 465 mana to see my fireball miss. =/

 

 

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http://wowwebstats.com/zwmpjq

Triebryn — Sun, 07/13/2008 - 20:44

http://wowwebstats.com/zwmpjqwtipyg5

Lastest mALT run...comments Dufe.   On the run I got both the Aldor Robes and Pants..I also had the Belt of Blasting made before the run

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I see some good improvement

Dufe — Mon, 07/14/2008 - 10:40

I see some good improvement in the areas discussed last time.  Keep picking up experience and you'll be able to wring out a little more dmg from your gear.  Overall very good job though.  Seems like you're trying really hard to push your limits.

At this point, I'd probably suggest trying a move to the 2/47/11+1 fire spec mentioned here: http://www.downfallguild.org/node/109. For starters, you'll want to learn how to time your Icy Veins/Combustion so that they come off cooldown sometime during the last 20% of the boss's life.  (Molten Fury)

You have a healthy amount of Stam at this point, so look at your gems carefully and see if there are any gems with Stam or other non-dps enhancing stats that can be upgraded to dmg stats.  Many times you'll lose a socket bonus in doing so, but that's fine so long as the overall effect on dmg is positive.  Just keep at least 2 "blues" for the meta.

To make the gemming process easier for you - As 2/48/11 in your CURRENT gear, here is how stats compare:

1 Spell Dmg = 1.05 Spell Haste = 1.47 Spell Crit Rating = 2.15 Int = 4.99 Spirit 

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Don't forget that you can

Karli — Fri, 07/11/2008 - 08:20

Don't forget that you can snag some pretty sweet gear through pvp honor points.  The newly released Guardian items are pretty amazing.  You can snag rings, neck, bracer, belt, and boots.  It's a great time filler too when you're by yourself waiting to get into a group to get all those badges...

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Agreed.  Although the best

Dufe — Fri, 07/11/2008 - 13:13

Agreed.  Although the best of the PvP stuff in PvE settings is the guardian's necklace . . . which he apparently already picked up.  Smart man.

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There are 2 types of mages

Dragon — Thu, 07/10/2008 - 15:23

There are 2 types of mages in the world.

Frost mages and dead mages. ~Your Local Rogue Community

There is no Emotion; There is Peace.
There is no Ignorance; There is Knowledge.
There is no Passion; There is Serenity.
There is no Death; There is The Force.
~Jedi Code

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There are two types of

Disrupter — Thu, 07/10/2008 - 17:12

There are two types of rogues I run into.

Rogues that proc cheat death at 100%, and rogues that cloak of skill in time to not be owned.

 Which are you :).

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If you're going fire, this

Dufe — Thu, 07/10/2008 - 14:52

If you're going fire, this list will be better, again sorted by rough dps upgrade value from your current set:

  1. [Legwraps of Sweltering Flame] (Badges) + [Runic Spellthread] (Crafted)
  2. [Belt of Blasting] (BoE Crafted)
  3. [Tormented Demonsoul Robes] (Badges) + Restore Mana Prime Enchant
  4. [Glyph of Power] (Sha'tar Revered)
  5. [Boots of Incantations] (Badges) + Boar's Speed Enchant
  6. [Sorcerer's Alchemist Stone] (BoP Crafted) would replace the Icon for Fire
  7. [Enslaved Doomguard Soulgrips] Badges
  8. [Scryer's Blade of Focus] (Badges) + Sunfire Enchant
  9. [Flametongue Seal] (Badges)
  10. Get to Exalted with Scryers for [Greater Inscription of the Orb]
  11. [Carved Witchdoctor's Stick] (Badges)
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I am currently frost (for

Triebryn — Thu, 07/10/2008 - 13:58

I am currently frost (for farming primal fires), but I think I am going to go back to fire for raiding.  Thanks Dufe this is a big help,  I should be able to get the pants and waist by the weekend.

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