Nice job Lepp, this was a fun thread for me to read!

I have been leveling a holy priest as a pet project, and while I certainly expect it to take maybe 2 months or so to get her to 70, there was one driving reason behind her creation: to do something COMPLETELY different than my main.

I really really liked the point Lepp brought up about how playing other classes gives you a better understanding of how all our roles fit together. 

I don't think any of us really expect to be given any sort of preferential treatment on our alts, but at the heart of it is that if you are skilled, geared, and needed more than your main at one particular point in time, it is sure nice to be able to have something you can switch out.

PS - Mages <3 Pudo tank.  And Garreth BoPs.  I am just wondering though, who loves Mages w/ Ice Block most?  Karli, Hamfist healers, or Hamfist tanks?

just to clarify, a druid is not an "AoE" tank, that job sits firmly on the shoulders of the pally tanks, try keeping 7 mobs under control with a buck wild mage and three locks seeding on a druid, and you'll find a lot of cloth and blood sprayed everywhere.  My single target is worse, my two target threat is worse, but on three or more targets, I am the best AoE tank in the game :) 

oh, and ALL of an alts gear should either be crafted, earned or bought in ten mans and special case 25's, the reason he's an alt is he's a pet project.  something you've been thinking about/experimented with and have tested without the repair bills of twenty five other people on the line.  When I geared up and talented pudo at seventy, the new prot tree had just been tweaked and in all of wow I had seen two other prot type pallys (who were healing with a few points in prot for holy shield)  I did my first heroic Shadow labs with 9.7k hp and a ton of theory craft I'd never seen or tried before.  Now my alt is 'freakishly' geared, I kicked in Vashj's face because my healers were fucking on their game and Hyjal trash (with pk nuit mnor and pudo) is totally hamfist's bitch.  People have actually been mad at me for passing on gear because I do my job so well, but he's still an alt, he'll still only be called upon when we're in need of tanks and my shadowbolts will be burning Illidan come spring.

I have no idea where that wall came from, all I really meant to say was "An alt is something you cringe about bringing in, when they call your non-main character by name and want him, he's not an alt, he's an asset" 

Epic win

^  win  ^

The Wrath of Garreth generally involves corn, lots of cereal, beer, and shame.

LOL there's the Shihli I am used to.

AH wait!!!! no mention has been made about switching! Lepp is my first and my preference...well my first that really counts.... my actual first is on a PvE server and lvl 23.

I have already mentioned that I do want raiding with Ard to be an option but he is not ready for anything more that heroics and Kara.... but Porter... hmm. The only reason I would switch is if I was asked to do so.

 I do fear the wrath of Garreth... sure he sounds like a cute and cuddily teddy bear... wait that is sounding wrong... erm... nvm.

The beauty of having a priest is I can heal or do DPS, and be decent in PvP. Im sitting @ 1100 healing (Not great, but consider disc talents only, with no gear enchanted for plus healing, gemmed for res and stam/mp5 and most of the healing gear is pvp). Also, the beauty about BT is that it drops soooo much Cloth healing gear, so once Jas gets her pieces, I'm usually next inline for the drop. If I needed to heal for a night or two I wouldnt be against it, but some gold would be nice to cover ridic respec costs. (least 2.4 I wont have to retrain skills!)

The only real benefit I could see of Attuning Ag would be for archimonde, if we're short on rogues/melee and I forget sights/shins info, and even then I wouldn't push it unless we thought it was best for the rogue to get attuned.

HOWEVER DYLONN IS LEVEL 42 AND SPITS HOT FIYAH SO LOOK OUT. WHEN I GET TO 70 I WILL NEED MY DKP DIVIDED BETWEEN BOTH ANTI AND DYLONN :P

(i kid).

My girl, she likes to party all the time.

I'm sitting on 1654+heal (or so, that's off memory) and 225 or so mp5 with Water Shield.

Once I start getting Luchs into ZA a bit more, along with Karazhan badges he'll be getting 48 badges per week - and will have some great healing gear in no time.

 
Starhack healz guud.

/flings poop at Garreth

Ehh, having a different type of dps on your alt makes it a different kind of fun too.  I rarely get to mix it up in melee on Shihli, so it's fun to do it on Luchs (particularly when it results in 1-shotting mobs and recent lv. 70's in cloth).

Oh, and I'll get more experience healing, G.  :P

Lepp, you might want to re-read the latest "alt discussions".

Nowhere in those discussions has anyone really said "No alts!  Ever!  None in our raids!  RABBLE RABBLE"  And none of the people volunteering alts have said "We want lewt!  Gimme!"

The most recent discussion has more to do with appropriate gear and experience balance than anything else.  I'm a good shaman, but I'm FAR better at my hunter in every sense.  Likewise, my hunter's sitting on T6-equivalent gear whereas my shaman's pimping straight T4- and ZA-equivalent.

In short, this discussion is not really that similar to the old Crossgrip discussions of old.  Furthermore, because of that experience, we can straight up tell people "Get on your main, not going to do this again."  What's more, if people bitch and moan, we can just say "It's in writing, read the site, get over it."

Also, people who roll dps alts who have dps mains... seriously, what the fuck.  Every single main who's alt we've BT attuned has been of a completely separate raid role.   Rupta is a tank, Pudo is a tank.  Luchs is healing.  Luchs needs much more healing practice, imo ;)