Iwinyou - 5/8 Elemental shaman. 2/8 resto

Iwinyou — Mon, 08/25/2008 - 02:30

Character Info

Information about the character.

Character Name:

Iwinyou

Race:

Draenai

Character Class:

Shaman

Character Level:

lvl 70

Total play time at level 70:

n iwinyou alone 50 days... but i have 6 lvl 70s.....

Total play time:

Average play time per week:

30 active and round 10-20 afking/AH trading.

Good computer/internet connection?:

Yes

What is your average latency?:

1XX

Server you are currently on:

Arthas

How long have you been on the above server?:

almost 4 years

Raiding

What talent build do you use to raid?:

As elemental ill spec 41/0/20, when i heal if i plan on being in a caster group i go 8/5/48 and if i know ill be put with melee i go 0/12/49

Tell us a little about how your class contributes to a raid.:

As elemental my personal dps can be anywhere between 1200s-1900s depending on the fight, group build and tanks. . The totem of wrath is what makes the elemental shaman a huge help to raid DPS. 3% hit and crit allows raid members to change their gear to increase their DPS by large numbers, i'm talking 100+ per person if they drop hit for haste and lets not forget about the wrath of air bonus or heroism. As an elemental shaman my focus is on dpsing but i often find myself sacrificing my personal dps to keep other raiders up. Even as elemental i can switch over to my healing mace and shield and have 1800+ healing and toss effective heals. I use 268 haste in my elemental gear which throws my chain heals every 2.14 seconds. Sometimes i even find myself being asked to throw on healing gear as elemental and i can still top healing because of the way the spec works. Elemental shaman are a true hybrid.

What role are you most comfortable/geared playing?:

DPS

Would it be a problem if you had to wait 3 weeks or 3 months to get into raid?:

This is a tough question. I would be changing servers to raid. This means taking my best geared toon to another server where i have no friends and not being able to go back to my home server for months.(use to be 3 months but they might have changed it). So lets just say it would make me sad.

List the instances you have experience in, and the farthest you have been in that instance.:

Cleared pre TBC - ZG, MC, BWL Cleared TBC - ZA, Kara, TK, SSC, BT. Up to brut in Sunwell.

What is your favorite 25-man BC Boss encounter, and why?:

First i have to say that ZA bear runs are my favorite thing to do, there is nothing like pushing as hard as you can to see how much time you can have left when reaching the lynx boss. Favorite boss in TBC would probably be Brut and again this has to do with time and pressure. On Brut healers are always on their toes getting ready to switch heals to tanks or the raid and where a 1/10th of a second can mean a person goes splat. The DPS is pushing as hard as they can while not pulling aggro and the tanks are fighting to keep it. Its just a great fight where ever second counts and kills after the enrage timer are OH so much fun to watch.

What is your least favorite 25-man BC Boss encounter, and why?:

Archi. Easy fight, have one shot him many times but then again you bring one person who isnt on their game or who is new to the fight and you might want to stab them.

General Questions

List your pertinent alts, as well as their classes and levels:

70 druid elrohir, 70 warrior frankthetank, 70 hunter urdadd, 70 priest areolea, 70 warlock ballerfree

Is this app for your main alone, or would you like to bring alts over as well?:

Main only

Why should we recruit you?:

I really enjoy the game and helping people. I often run instances to help my friends out. Ive been leading pug gruuls for my friend Dave for the last 3 months just trying to get him a DST and still no luck but i wont give up. I often chill in vent and love to play other games with people like CSS.

Why have you chosen to apply to Downfall?:

I was looking for a guild in in the PST time zone because my night classes and a new job made raiding on Arthas very hard. I found you guys from using wowwiki and after talking to your GM about elemental shaman and how your guild has never used on I think it would be really fun for me and you guys to see how helpful one can be.

What do you expect to get out of Downfall membership?:

a good time

How do you feel you will contribute to the downfall community?:

see my response to "why should we recruit you?" I'd also like to say I'm an easy going guy who loves to joke around and have a good time. If you guys like people like that you will love me.

Do you have any references in Downfall?:

How long do you intend to stay in Downfall?:

I've been in 5 raiding guilds in 3 years. As long as you guys are fun to be around is how long i will stay.

What things might cause you to leave?:

I would be coming over to the server to raid. I don't expect to be in every raid or handed a raid spot without earning it but I know that i can prove myself to be an good addition to your raid team and I want that chance. So to answer the question not being given that shot in a fair amount of time would cause me to leave. Other things that might cause me to leave would be large personality conflicts which i hope wont happen. Obviously people will always have disagreements so im talking huge fights or something that is just really wrong.

If you are applying to raid, which nights can you raid?:

Monday

Tuesday

Wednesday

Thursday

Friday

Saturday

Sunday

Are you going to burn out?:

Anything else you would like to add?:

Its 6am so im going to end this here but i will check back often and anwser any questions you might have. I find Q&As are better than me going on a rant.

What timezone are you in?:

eastern

How often do you think you would have to miss raid?:

not very often.

What might the typical reasons for missing raid be?:

school, job, and some IRL plans. Its easy to work around raid days for me usually.

Read everything here: http://www.downfallguild.org/loot Does that seem fair?:

seems like a pretty cool way of doing loot and loot isn't a huge deal to me I often pass items unless its one of those things i have been drooling over.

If Shihli tells a joke (good or bad), will you laugh?:

Yes

Your ass, or a hole in the ground?:

My ass

How do you feel about mods, particularly in a raid setting?:

addons can be a very good thing but sometimes they get in the way of gameplay or actually cause people to have problems functioning without them. I have tried many addons in my years playing this game and now stick to a very simple UI. Swstats, omen, ctraid, bigwigs, dr damage and in game raid frames/cast bars. I know some might say that a another raid frame setup would be better but im happy with the in game one. A bad player with all best addons is still bad, im a great player with very few addons and I am still great.

Are you willing to change mods that don't interface well with ours in raid?:

Yes

Personal

How long have you been playing WoW?:

almost 4 years

How old are you?:

Tell us about yourself.:

I'm a 22 year old, half Japanese, 5'11” 150 pound college student. I love hanging out with friends, going to bars, night clubs and the beach. I drive a 350z and do all of my modifications myself. I working at Carrabba's Italian Grill during the night. I have a daytime job as a Program Manager for a tutoring company called Tutorworks. I hope to own restaurants and hotels at some point in my life and then eventually retire to become an economics teacher.

Are you in school or working?:

Im going to the University of South Florida. I'm majoring in business economics with a minor in leadership stuidies.

What Country/State do you live in?:

USA/Florida

Last night was our fourth

garreth — Tue, 09/09/2008 - 10:27

Last night was our fourth raid in a row where we did not have enough dps signed on. There have absolutely been caster dps slots open this last week. I'm ready to give you a spot in our raid under the following conditions:

1) Don't be a dick. Not saying you are, but don't be one once you get here.
2) No loot for three weeks. Yarly. I want to see if you can raid with people outside of loot for awhile. If it's going to NRP, we'll of course toss it to you, but as it stands I'd like to see you pass for three weeks.
3) Everyone hates server transfers and shammies. You are both. It's an uphill battle, my friend. Prove to us why you rock and why you are here for the community and not just for the raid. A person that has done this well so far is Luczilla. Ask him for pointers :)
4) Understand that it is highly likely you'll get sat a night or two per week. This is a massive transition and you'll need to be patient.
5) Understand that I have an itchy gkick finger after the last server transfers. I will not allow that bullshit to happen again.
6) You need to be online for ALL raids. I'm not going to ginvite a server transfer for the one or two nights they can actually be online. Four nights a week.

Catch me on your toon on gorg tonight. We're doing Sunwell Tuesday and Wednesday with BT cleanup Friday. It will be BT or Sunwell on Monday. Be prepared to wipe. Know Kalecgos, Brutallus and Felmyst inside and out. Be prepared to wipe. Bring all your consumables. Let's get this moving.

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I did read everything before

Lunchbox — Sun, 09/07/2008 - 12:16

I did read everything before posting. I am still not sold. And no that was not an attack. You probably have noticed by everyones responses is that we are very weary at the fact that it is a server transfer and we want to make sure that you are going to be fine with making that kind of a jump even with the destinct possibility of not bein accepted or even the possibility of not raiding for a while. It is a lot of ifs. No reason to get so offensive. Like you said you were being honest, so was I. That is just how I see things, and does not reflect an entire guild's thoughts.

I'll put this plain and

Iwinyou — Fri, 09/05/2008 - 20:03

I'll put this plain and short. If you would read everything you would have had no need to write what you did.

Thursday 8/28/08

“As i said i enjoy BT but I want to continue my progression rather than backtrack. So i have no problem with doing bt, hyjal or any other raid but i do want to see new things =).”

Also in my app i said i enjoy helping people and that i enjoy BT.

(im not being a dick here, just kinda messing around, but seriously LTR before you attack somebody. Thats some advice that will go a long way in life.)

I'll just put it plain and

Lunchbox — Thu, 09/04/2008 - 05:57

I'll just put it plain and short. We are not a singular mindset guild. We do alot of end game raids like BT not just for ourselves or to see these ares, but to help others get things they may need. With the mindset of "No BT, Yes Sunwell" sounds, and I aplologize for being blunt, selfish. We run what we run because we have fun doing it. And as yes Sunwell is epic and we want to plow though it, we do run other instances and count on everyone to pitch in and help.

Calm and non inflammitory

jaibyrd — Mon, 09/01/2008 - 10:11

Calm and non inflammitory answers to some forthright questions...I like that.

Yes, I like to heal. No, I've never been shadow.

The shaman flood gates have

Jorence — Sat, 08/30/2008 - 22:50

The shaman flood gates have opened.

Okay, so, if he gets in, thats 7 shamans...? Why. I'm really confused as to WHY and HOW we have so many all of a sudden. Shouldn't half of them be leaving now?

Well the extra thing you'd

saedo — Fri, 08/29/2008 - 12:43

Well the extra thing you'd bring is Totem of Wrath, perhaps another Heroism. Though they can only be used once every 5 min next patch, so prob at most used 2 shamans can cover it, but perhaps that thinking too far ahead. Otherwise resto shamans bring the rest of the stuff anyways.

The thing more is that yea it's not gonna cost us much really, but hope you're aware it'd prob be a risk. Here's how guild apps on our server are handled. They basically only get called upon to fill in for some random raid once or twice a week, or maybe even less. In the meantime, hang out, talk on forums, raid a bit, everyone gets to know each other, and months later through some lethargic process eventually makes it in if they don't fail anywhere along the way.

Being the server transfer, don't really have that luxury. Jumping to this server forces that 3 month commitment in a strange new land. All for a shot at something that's not totally guarenteed. The core gets in first and the only way to sneak in is through the actions of just being available, consistent, reliable, good, etc. And making us forget about those flakey ones that just aren't.

Well, we'll see I guess!

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I think he's made some

garreth — Fri, 08/29/2008 - 12:27

I think he's made some really good points. I'd like to see what our attendance looks like Monday-Wednesday this next week. If I have to scramble every damned night for a ranged spot, I think I know who I want to fill it.

Hang in there, Iwin. Downfall takes a LOT of time with these kinds of things, you're holding up well.

We run with anywhere from

Shihli — Fri, 08/29/2008 - 12:17

We run with anywhere from 3-6 shamans.

That said, "words are just words" but they're also all you've got going for you right now, so they carry a bit more weight than you're giving them.

Words are just words and

Iwinyou — Fri, 08/29/2008 - 12:13

Words are just words and actions are actions.. I'f i spend the money and the transfer save to come to you guys, that atleast shows that I have good intentions. In the very least secures me with you for 3 months in which time the expansion comes out. (im not saying im going to leave im just going with worst case. since that seems like a big concern.) So heres a few more things that I hope will help ease your concerns.

This guild is the only guild i have apped too.

My gear is of relatively high level and you will not need to dump gear into me.

I should have very good attendance, things do come up but you can expect 90 to 100% from me.

If I suck, don't match up to my words, If you dont like me you can kick me at very little cost to your guild.... I'm not asking for anything except the intent of a raid slot and I understand if you feel im not worth that slot then I will lose it.

There are many pros to having an elemental shaman in raid. Heroism, Wrath of air totem, tremor totem, totem of wrath, mana spring, makes a good off healer in a jam. 1% hit racial to group and some really sexy shoulders.

on a side note even if you dont pick me to join your guild you should REALLY try an elemental shaman. If they are good they will make a huge impact to your guild, im also not sure how many shaman you run but heroism alone is huge. Most guilds i know run 5+ shams in sunwell.

He makes a good point

starstalker — Fri, 08/29/2008 - 13:22

He makes a good point about the shoulders.

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Avocado burns your fat inside of you. Rice does not give you fat. Seaweed gives you buffs

Maybe maybe not.

saedo — Thu, 08/28/2008 - 23:07

Maybe maybe not. Logistically speaking, it would be a lot easier to fit in a ranged. We only have 1 group of melee, if you're not in it dps suffers so usually can't afford to bring more than that group. Then there's 2 groups for casters, and 2 groups for healers/tanks/other ranged. So more slots there as a fill in, as a permanent spot, only time will tell.

Trust for server transfer shamans is really really low due to all the burns we've had. So it's very hard to convey any proof that it won't turn out to be an emo out waste of time. Promises can be made, but in the end they're just words, and it's not like we haven't heard them before.

So to get one of those coveted spots, it could take months and months of fill in time. Could wind up being invited 0-1 times a week only. Just be part of our community. And being that it would take a server transfer to do it, that risk would take real money and the inablility to go to any other server for a while. So the question is, is that worth it? Or perhaps finding a guild that has a more pressing need for you better?

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As much as I want to see an

Disrupter — Thu, 08/28/2008 - 22:29

As much as I want to see an elemental shaman in raid, don't we have people that joined months ago that are still not really getting invites? How can we promiss him a spot when we cant promiss our core?

Don't wanna waste the guys time / money transfering only to get invited on the off chance we're missing a bunch of people. And being guaranteed a raid spot right off the bat isn't fair to some of the raiders... who'd he replace?

I know there will be room in our bt/hyjal nights, but our sunwell nights... when all 5 of our wonderful warlocks, all 3 of our rogues, all 3 hunters, 4 mages (er well, 3 and a moonkin now). Can't fit em all... Who'd be subbed out? I'd die for an ele shammy in my group :3 but is he actually gonna get invited to the raids? lol

I'm not worried that

jaibyrd — Thu, 08/28/2008 - 21:07

I'm not worried that Downfall would welcome him if he came I am wondering about his stated reason for choosing DF. He wants to do Sunwell. He clearly stated it several times. Now unless we are willing to quarentee him a sunwell spot are we really gonna let this guy go through the trouble of server hopping? As far as I've noticed the raid spots are far from secure for new DF members but I'm not sure about Shammies, we seem to have gone through alot of them...maybe there is a spot quarenteed for this guy, idk. But he should know that before he comes one way or the other because that is what he is interested in afterall.

Yes, I like to heal. No, I've never been shadow.

I'm not sold, sorry.

Shihli — Thu, 08/28/2008 - 21:02

I'm not sold, sorry.

I honestly can't find

karlizeth — Thu, 08/28/2008 - 20:35

I honestly can't find anything problematic with this app. All of the questions we have in the back of our minds (will he go emo? is he leaving drama at his old server to start drama on ours? does he know how to play his class? does he expect free loot?) etc etc has really already been addressed. I think he'd be a positive addition overall to guild.

Thanks Karlizeth. BTW i got

Iwinyou — Thu, 08/28/2008 - 20:59

Thanks Karlizeth. BTW i got in for gurt today for 2 attempts with my old guild.. its not the best fight to show my dps because of the threat issues most have on the boss but you can at least see a little bit of what im like in a raid most of the dps are 2/8 some are 4/8 in the raid. http://wowwebstats.com/ytq6jz32zh1mg?s=36942-58328&m

For those of you who are worried about e emoing out it wont happen as long as you dont make me an officer... lots of respect for those of you who are officers in a 2 team raiding guild.

Well I'm wanting to transfer

Iwinyou — Thu, 08/28/2008 - 18:51

Well I'm wanting to transfer to a server in a new time zone due to having night classes and a new night time job. (I'm working at Carrabbas Itallian Grill). I live in florida som im on eastern time zone you guys are in PST which is 3 hours later.. So your 7 is my 10 and that works perfect for me...

As i said i enjoy BT but I want to continue my progression rather than backtrack. So i have no problem with doing bt, hyjal or any other raid but i do want to see new things =).

My question is this; If it

jaibyrd — Thu, 08/28/2008 - 13:26

My question is this; If it is so difficult to transfer (expensive etc) your main here to then find out you may not get to raid Sunwell for several months why have you not looked into other guilds on the server you are currently on? I'm assuming there is more than one guild on your server attacking Sunwell? Getting into Downfall and getting to raid with Downfall are usually two very seperate events so I'm wondering what will happen to you if you come here and find yourself lacking contacts/alts/and raids?

Yes, I like to heal. No, I've never been shadow.

fair enough. I apologize for

Dikymo — Thu, 08/28/2008 - 11:59

fair enough. I apologize for being so blunt but we go through shaman at a pretty alarming rate. good luck with your app.

Secretary vice president to the vice president's secretary of the department of redundancy department

umm. uhh. you sound kinda

Dikymo — Thu, 08/28/2008 - 09:46

umm. uhh. you sound kinda like a prick. just honest opinion. If you are a prick you should maybe move on and not waste our time. The guild officers will decide when if and what raid you would be going with. if not having control over that is going to be a problem you should probably keep walking.

again just commenting on how you represent yourself in your app.

Disclaimer: I am not a guild officer and my views are not the views of downfall or any of its officers.

Secretary vice president to the vice president's secretary of the department of redundancy department

I am sorry If I have come

Iwinyou — Thu, 08/28/2008 - 11:10

I am sorry If I have come off that way. I can assure you im a fun loving guy =), but when asked a question i will anwser with the truth, not some shade of the truth. Sometimes I may be blunt but all my friends know I will never lie unless i really have to. About me saying which raid i am applying for ill try to make my point of view more clear. The way I feel about that is I wish to pick up where I left off in raiding. I have to spend money to do so, leave all my alts which are very usefull in making stuff for my main and make my shaman unmoveable for 3 months. I would be willing to do that for a Sunwell raid, but not a BT raid. I have seen all of BT many times and although I enjoy it, I would not like leave soo much behind for content I have farmed. Sunwell has been my favoirte instance and i wish to see more of it, the benefit of that outweighs the cost of leaving everything behind. I hope that that helps you to know where I am comming from. I also have had little experiance with a guild of your size, the last two team guild we had on Arthas was pre BC, in which you did apply for the raid teams independantly (which i think is a reasonable thing to do).... on a side not does anybody else miss 40 man raids. I do.

L2paragraph =) I hope

starstalker — Thu, 08/28/2008 - 12:25

L2paragraph

I hope you do realize that our "sunwell" raid does still run BT on occaison. While I'm sure that is slowing down, would that be a negative for you?

On a positive note, I am excited about seeing an elemental shammy in raid, especially with our other caster dps currently touring the world, or wherever they've been.

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Avocado burns your fat inside of you. Rice does not give you fat. Seaweed gives you buffs

Well, he passes the Dikymo

garreth — Thu, 08/28/2008 - 12:24

Well, he passes the Dikymo test. On with the Shihli test.

And, so you know, Downfall has devoured and emo'd out 14 shamans since BC release. Every single one of them WoW-quit, deleted their toons, server transferred or got gkicked.

Don't even get me started on server transfers INTO Downfall. Needless to say, it's an uphill battle for you.

Prove it to us why you're not going to be "Another Douchebag Emo Shaman". Or, as we like to call them: ADES (pronounced "AIDS").

yeah i was wondering what

Iwinyou — Wed, 08/27/2008 - 19:00

yeah i was wondering what happened.. i edited the app cause i noticed a typo lol.

Ugh, I'm sorry, Iwin. Our

garreth — Wed, 08/27/2008 - 09:40

Ugh, I'm sorry, Iwin. Our application system sets apps to a "null" value if they get edited after submittal. I've opened this back up, sorry about that.

The raid has been talking about an elemental shammy a lot lately. Stay tuned.

Shihli I see your point and

Iwinyou — Mon, 08/25/2008 - 16:37

Shihli I see your point and you guys are lucky. On Arthas guilds have always had issues with breaking up. So here is my guild story. Pre BC i left my first raiding guild "The Legendary" a MC raiding guild, the guild ended up splitting because an officer auto looted the priest staff part out chest in MC. I left for a guild called "Ruin" which broke up after we couldnt get past vaelistraze (oh i know i messed that spelling up). Back when Arthas was on old hardware when pulling Nef or Vael guild had to warn others because of the 30 second lag spike it caused. After Ruin split about 5 of us went to a guild called "Temperance" here i stayed, cleared BWL and saw the first boss of aq40. The summer before TBC came out Temperance, Ret, solid out and a few other guilds left Arthas for Mal'Ganas. I remained on Arthas. In TBC the only two guilds i raided with were Security and NvM. While in NvM i first raided on my warlock Ballerfree. My shaman was in the guild Security and i raided with both. I ended up going camping for a month and lost my spot in Security, took the shaman back to NvM and converted it to my main. I have left NvM due to being stressed out as an officer and a change in my real life job and school. I have an open invite back to NvM but due to raid times that no longer work for me i have started to look to PST servers.

To the question of the raid team. I am looking to pick up raiding where i left off which is with Brut down and on the way to Felmyst. That is why this is the only guild on your server i have apped to. (actually the only app i have up right now, anywhere) I wouldn't mind starting out in the Illidan raid at first because obviously i have to prove myself and Sunwell is no joke where you bring people you dont know, but i want to be recurited with the intent to be on the Sunwell team if i prove myself as a valuable raid slot.

To Gares - I will be running a ZA or Kara soon to get a WWS up. Obviously my numbers will be higher in 25 mans because of more buffs and the fact that i often find myself threat capped in 10 mans.

I said this before but you may have missed it. im 2/8 t6 resto with 22XX+ healing and 235 haste unbuffed.

Starting out in the Illidan

Grasen — Thu, 08/28/2008 - 22:16

Starting out in the Illidan raid (LF1M) then moveing to the Sunwell raid(Hamfist) is not an option. I'm Grasen one of the Raid officers for LF1M as well as leader of the ssc/tk fun runs on sat and I can safely tell you we do not trade members between raid. LF1M is not a proveing ground for Hamfist. We are 2 different raids with similer goals in mind. If you were to join LF1M it would be a perminate thing as long as you were with Downfall.

Along with Gares' question,

garreth — Mon, 08/25/2008 - 14:16

Along with Gares' question, I'll add on to it:

How do you feel about joining a raid that is just now learning Illidan instead of, say, learning Felmyst?

I like this app. I wanted

Gares of War — Mon, 08/25/2008 - 14:07

I like this app. I wanted to add something positive.

I do have a few questions for you:

Do you have parses? Having excellent gear is one thing, but seeing you maximize your potential is another.

On a side, do you have gear for other specs? We are always looking for resto, although, dps specs are possible too.

I am not sure how Hamfist, our more progressed raid, is in need for dps, but our secondary raid always needs dps.

Iwinyou - 5/8 Elemental shaman. 2/8 resto

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