I've been thinking about branching mAlt out a bit. I'm sorta tired of KZ and Gruul/Mag...tell me what you think!
Aidin — Wed, 09/10/2008 - 09:20
Stick with what you're doing Aidin...you're crazy.
10% (7 votes)
Branch out to SSC/TK (these will NOT be Vail runs)
40% (27 votes)
Go for broke and branch out to SSC/TK AND MH
27% (18 votes)
Forget SSC/TK and go straight to MH!!
22% (15 votes)
Total votes: 67



Haleth and CD are both
Cdhabro — Fri, 09/19/2008 - 12:54Haleth and CD are both available whatever you decide to do. Both have been doing a little t6 intro content and are geared for it- I just enjoy raiding with you guys.
<3 joo CD, my oldest and
Aidin — Fri, 09/19/2008 - 12:59<3 joo CD, my oldest and dearest WoW friend!!!
How many ppl can say ..Hey I remember when Aidin was lvl 18??? lol
This is a little off topic.
runhilan — Wed, 09/17/2008 - 16:25This is a little off topic. I never knew Downfall did TK/SSC vial runs. If so please let me know how much and when as I want that title before WOLTK come out.
Your a friend of the
Aidin — Wed, 09/17/2008 - 21:37Your a friend of the guild...just sign up for the Smash n' Grabs Run, I'm sure we can find a way to fit you in.
Thats why I love you guys.
runhilan — Thu, 09/18/2008 - 17:48Thats why I love you guys.
I think you guys are kinda
Stagon — Sun, 09/14/2008 - 22:30I think you guys are kinda making mountains out of molehills here, moving to ssc and tk would be no prob for anyone with full epics, even if they are pvp.... I have done ssc and tk with my past 2 guilds, with crappy class balances and people who cannot pay attention. I honestly think it would be no prob to take down a lot of the bosses in these instances, as well as some of MH if the appropriate focus is present. Im not talking about omg lets get these bosses down or its over! Im talking more of what i have already seen from malt raids.... granted i have only been to one yet, and I am just an app, but these are just some ramblings about my past experiences and the confidence I have in you all to be able to accomplish these things. Even if it is your alts, you guys are still one of the best guilds on the server, and thus one of the best groups of players on the server.... Also, tk and ssc would be a much better test of the apps since they are harder instances right? =)
Longest post ever, sry
I am glad to hear that you
bluetouguyss — Sun, 09/14/2008 - 09:37I am glad to hear that you will still be running it Aidin. One thing I learned by running with Torvo yesterday is how stressful it can be to have everyone relying on you to put it together and not being able to find enough players (yesterday it was a MT). We tried to find one for about an hour which really put a damper on things. I am glad that you higher end players are doing this for our benefit with very little benefit to you guys. Thanks again!
I'm all for moving forward,
Lorb — Sat, 09/13/2008 - 10:25I'm all for moving forward, the knowledge in this guild is awsome and can support alts moving into higher places. I would hate to see the mags and grulls runs go away though, they are quick and help alot of other guildies that arent in our main raids or who have alts. Weekends our usally busy for me, but as I've said before I'll help any run when ya'll need me. As for me, I'd like to see some Archimonde downings!!
My only worry about this is
bluetouguyss — Sat, 09/13/2008 - 09:52My only worry about this is wasn't Malt the time when new applicants were supposed to try out and see what they could do? Seeing if they show up how they communicate how they work as a team ect? I was really looking forward to those runs.
I signed up for Torvo's Kara run today and cant wait, and I guess as long as someone is still running kara I guess that is fine. I was really looking forward to raiding with you guys especially you Aidin seeing as you were so positive when I first applied. These are just my thoughts.
I'm not planning on taking
Aidin — Sun, 09/14/2008 - 06:59I'm not planning on taking Gruul/Mag off the menu Blue...just a bit of a rotation.
i like to see some Mount
Caronte22 — Thu, 09/11/2008 - 15:19i like to see some Mount hyjal on my enchancement
Your shammy isn't quite rdy
Aidin — Sun, 09/14/2008 - 06:58Your shammy isn't quite rdy for MH...replace your blues and greens b4 we get there!!
Shi, my thought process is a
Aidin — Thu, 09/11/2008 - 08:05Shi, my thought process is a rotation so we don't burn everyone out. Saturday would be a rotation:
SSC (Sunday to Clean up and Sell Vials)
TK (Sunday to Clean up and Sell Vials)
MH (Sunday to Finish up if needed)
This puts cool shit on malt raiders, and takes some hastle out of a Vashj/Keal/Archi raid, which will hopefully entice more raiding mains to lend a hand.
So Sunday the main focus would be clean ups. I'm done with Kara unless it's on the fly. I'm sorry...I'm just done. (check with me again when my shammy dings 70...convincing me may be more likely at that point) What I would like to do on Sundays is still up in the air...maybe a ZA/Gruul & Mag rotation, maybe nothing...i dunno.
I'm more then open to the idea of someone picking up the mAlt name and running a steady Kara.
Ahh, now I got'cha.
Shihli — Thu, 09/11/2008 - 08:11Ahh, now I got'cha. Honestly, that makes a lot of sense to me. Kind of bummed that there's only 1 shot for boots every 3 weeks though, lol.
The trick, as always, is to strike the appropriate balance of raiders. SSC/TK would obviously be 7-8 healers, 3-4 tanks, 13-15 dps. MH would likely be 8 healers, 3 tanks (one pally req'd), 14 dps.
Can you tell I want boots? I'm also deeply jealous that LF1M has seen what - 3-4 Softstep Boots and 1-2 Quickstriders? Hamfist has only seen 1 Quickstrider, and that's it :(
[Gronnstalker's Boots]
saedo — Thu, 09/11/2008 - 09:07[item]Gronnstalker's Boots[/item] imo
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I'll only consider those
Shihli — Thu, 09/11/2008 - 09:15I'll only consider those possible when we actually get to kill Felmyst.
Let's see how the MH's
Aidin — Thu, 09/11/2008 - 08:16Let's see how the MH's go...if malt has reasonable success, and we have a good turn out from the main raiders for Archi..maybe we can go ..
ssc
mh
tk
mh
MH holds the greater amount of upgrades for the people that we will need to make these work.
Not to mention, mAlt
Pedran — Thu, 09/11/2008 - 07:54Not to mention, mAlt regulars will get a serious chance for SSC/TK gear. And its not like it would mess up the Smash'N'Grabs to terribly for those that can't come Sunday because not every mAlt will be SSC/TK.
The only question then becomes, do you still want KZ in the rotation for mAlt? I know that's a rude way to put it, (and saddens me b/c I still need phat l00tz from there....), but wouldn't it be more prudent to keep mAlt focused on the more complex instances since they take a good deal of learning and then just shift KZ to early-morn Saturday? Call it mini-kara as a raid-name, and (give me a few more KZ runs.....) I wouldn't mind running it since between my soon-to-be tankadin and Fjork, that's where my gear will be for a while. Then alts can still reliably hit KZ as soon as they get 70, and mAlt can focus on gearing up those that have already passed the Maglootpina gear-check.
I was going to say, that was
Shihli — Thu, 09/11/2008 - 07:50I was going to say, that was pretty much the same sort of thing I was thinking about.
I guess my only concern would be that the MH runs on Sunday would be written off - I enjoyed those MH runs and I still need new boots D: Doesn't look like Hamfist is planning on doing full BT's again for a while so I get no access to Teron, and we haven't done MH in ages so ... :x
Malt clears on Saturday what
Aidin — Thu, 09/11/2008 - 07:45Malt clears on Saturday what it can...Smash and Grab becomes a Kael/Vash run...and as long as there are still paying vial customers...we keep in guild repair money...This isn't shaping up to be a bad idea at all.
one option would be to move
Grasen — Thu, 09/11/2008 - 06:42one option would be to move the ssc/tk vial runs to sun and do the malt version on sat. then vial clears could pick up a partialy cleared instance. IN all honesty we always got stronger crews on sun for kael.
I think it is good to branch
Lunchbox — Thu, 09/11/2008 - 06:22I think it is good to branch out. Malt, just like any normal raid has been doing AZ and Kara for a while, now. And just like any normal raid, they would eventually bump up the difficulty of the Raids. While I would prefer Hyjal for my own greedy needs, I think SSC/TK would be perfect at this point. Malt is evolving just like any normal raid.
Before moving into SSC/TK on
garreth — Wed, 09/10/2008 - 13:28Before moving into SSC/TK on alts ask yourself this:
How many bosses in those instances still cockblock the Smash 'N Grab run? Skip those for the mAlt run, come back to them with the mains later in the evening/weekend.
I think mAlt can move into SSC/TK by now. After all, both those instances were made to be done in T4. It just means that alts in greens are no longer an option ;)
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if the malts started to do
Sorreah — Wed, 09/10/2008 - 13:20if the malts started to do tk and ssc the smash&grab could easily turn it up to MH
Vials would be more readily availible with more time on right bosses and some of the alts that are maxed out T4 would have a chance to do something with a chance at gains
Now it means the newer alts and apps would have to do some more leg work before hand and turn it up a notch but is this really a bad thing ?
you're probably right, I'm
Adwarflol — Wed, 09/10/2008 - 12:43you're probably right, I'm just cynical and wrong.
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living with you is like living in a living nightmare!
You haven't given any
Shihli — Wed, 09/10/2008 - 13:14You haven't given any support or rationale behind your "you guys can't do it" statement.
So the ball's in your court. State why you feel people can't push alts through SSC/TK, or don't just post frivolous comments to get stuff off your chest.
I don't want to argue, I'm
Adwarflol — Wed, 09/10/2008 - 13:23I don't want to argue, I'm sure you could do it. I've just had bad experiences with alt SSC/TK runs in the past (with my old guild). That is my only reasoning for doubting it.
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living with you is like living in a living nightmare!
If you'd said that from the
Shihli — Wed, 09/10/2008 - 13:27If you'd said that from the get-go, no one would have gotten on your back about your statement.
Just keep in mind - we're not your old guild :)
I voted for SSC/TK but my
Ardea — Wed, 09/10/2008 - 11:40I voted for SSC/TK but my alt is a bit more geared than most... If only I can remember how to play him.
Adwarf - Why? Stating that
Shihli — Wed, 09/10/2008 - 11:36Adwarf -
Why? Stating that you think it'll fail without giving any support to your own statement reeks of not cynicism - but bullshit.
I can sit here all day and say "I don't think the sun will rise tomorrow," but without any supporting statements it doesn't come off as informed or useful - only bullshit.