I haven't played with arms at all yet. I'm making that tomorrow's project.
A big problem I'm running into on the PTR is finding dungeons/raids to run in. I managed yesterday to run a pug Kara in the titan's grip spec I posted above and I put out just under 1500 dps for the whole run (which our group cleared in just under 2 hours). The miss penalty was noticable, but not as devastating as some have made it out to be. Overall, my dps was much higher than it is on live.
One thing I will state is rage generating abilities like anger management or unbridled wrath are absolutely not necessary with a Titan's grip spec. One white hit will give you around 30-40 rage. I spend most of my time literally sitting at a full rage bar, trying to figure out ways to spend it.
I will say Tanking is a blast on the PTR. There's almost too many cool abilities to use now. Rage starvation is no longer an issue, and the aoe tanking abilities are fun and work pretty well. I was able to successfully tank the hatchlings on the Dragon Hawk boss in ZA.
been toying around with Warrior specs for wrath(most of them PvP oriented)
THey seem to still have the warrior talents kinda ..unpolished like they got 90% of the way & left em (the enraged assault for UF among the most obvious)
I'm still not all that sold on Titan Grip, it seems like it's a talent you have to be raid geared to use fully(to overcome it's current 15% penalty)
Enrage effects being dispelable/tranqable is making me wonder how useful it'd be overall (regeneration...*snicker)
I agree with kybosh, although, I did not pay attention to Unedning fury, OH MY GOD. They are going to give us a bugged talent in patch 3.0.
Demo shout is good for raiding spec, but unbridled wrath is usual for farming and etc. If they damage you for less due to decrease AP the less rage you generate.
I would totally just get Bloodsurge and skip titan's grip unless you have 200+ hit in your dps gear.
First thing I would do is get rid of all of your points in unending fury. Enraged assault has been removed, and in its current form, the talents are not worth taking.
Switch out the 5 points in unbridled wrath and put them in imp demo shout. Titan's Grip generates massive amounts of rage, so you won't need it.
Most importantly, you'll want to have 2/2 imp whirlwind. 20% increased damage is huge, and whirlwind is your highest dps attack with Titan's grip.
It is pretty good all and all. I uldn't bother with enrage. It is now going to be 10% more damage after a 30% chance on hit. I personally think the points are better spent elsewhere, but I am thinking in a raiding sense.
I haven't played with arms
Kybosh — Wed, 09/17/2008 - 16:27I haven't played with arms at all yet. I'm making that tomorrow's project.
A big problem I'm running into on the PTR is finding dungeons/raids to run in. I managed yesterday to run a pug Kara in the titan's grip spec I posted above and I put out just under 1500 dps for the whole run (which our group cleared in just under 2 hours). The miss penalty was noticable, but not as devastating as some have made it out to be. Overall, my dps was much higher than it is on live.
One thing I will state is rage generating abilities like anger management or unbridled wrath are absolutely not necessary with a Titan's grip spec. One white hit will give you around 30-40 rage. I spend most of my time literally sitting at a full rage bar, trying to figure out ways to spend it.
I will say Tanking is a blast on the PTR. There's almost too many cool abilities to use now. Rage starvation is no longer an issue, and the aoe tanking abilities are fun and work pretty well. I was able to successfully tank the hatchlings on the Dragon Hawk boss in ZA.
I'll post some feedback Arms tommorrow.
been toying around with
Keisjaa — Wed, 09/17/2008 - 14:10been toying around with Warrior specs for wrath(most of them PvP oriented)
THey seem to still have the warrior talents kinda ..unpolished like they got 90% of the way & left em (the enraged assault for UF among the most obvious)
I'm still not all that sold on Titan Grip, it seems like it's a talent you have to be raid geared to use fully(to overcome it's current 15% penalty)
Enrage effects being dispelable/tranqable is making me wonder how useful it'd be overall (regeneration...*snicker)
Playing with your original model I came up with
THIS
the 1point in piercing howl is a filler
the 3 in tactical mastery are there as personal preference(i've become attached to it from PvP stance swapping)
wrath vs demo shout is a matter of whether there's another warrior with it
weapon mastery is probably a good idea as anything to cut miss/dodges etc when you have long swing timers is good
anger management for those times on bosses etc where you can't attack but are in combat anyhow(and it's only 1 point)
Ky, since you're on the PTR have they fixed Slam yet so it suspends the swing timer instead of reseting it?
Here's a summary of my
Kybosh — Wed, 09/17/2008 - 12:20Here's a summary of my proposed Titan's Grip Spec spec based on what I've played around with on the PTR.
http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?talent=LN0c0fVZVx0VgcRiubxsz
Based on theorycrafting right now, the top dps spec in beta is this:
http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?talent=LZVV0VxcMVZbIu0gcdVbIbo
I really don't think that will be the case when wrath arrives. I don't think the developers want protection to be the top dps spec.
*edit the links are kinda borked since the talent Calc has been updated to the new build -keis
I agree with kybosh,
Gares of War — Wed, 09/17/2008 - 12:03I agree with kybosh, although, I did not pay attention to Unedning fury, OH MY GOD. They are going to give us a bugged talent in patch 3.0.
Demo shout is good for raiding spec, but unbridled wrath is usual for farming and etc. If they damage you for less due to decrease AP the less rage you generate.
I would totally just get Bloodsurge and skip titan's grip unless you have 200+ hit in your dps gear.
First thing I would do is
Kybosh — Wed, 09/17/2008 - 07:29First thing I would do is get rid of all of your points in unending fury. Enraged assault has been removed, and in its current form, the talents are not worth taking.
Switch out the 5 points in unbridled wrath and put them in imp demo shout. Titan's Grip generates massive amounts of rage, so you won't need it.
Most importantly, you'll want to have 2/2 imp whirlwind. 20% increased damage is huge, and whirlwind is your highest dps attack with Titan's grip.
It is pretty good all and
Gares of War — Wed, 09/17/2008 - 07:14It is pretty good all and all. I uldn't bother with enrage. It is now going to be 10% more damage after a 30% chance on hit. I personally think the points are better spent elsewhere, but I am thinking in a raiding sense.
k. there you go guys i have
kado — Wed, 09/17/2008 - 02:45k. there you go guys i have posted the correct url and checked to make sure it works :)
ypou create a url on the
Gares of War — Tue, 09/16/2008 - 20:22ypou create a url on the bottom of the screen, post that :)
You either didn't save it
Kybosh — Tue, 09/16/2008 - 19:21You either didn't save it and have nothing there, or you purposely put nothing there.
Update it and I'll give you what feedback I can