Well then, forgive me for having an opinion, I wasn't aware it was less valuable than yours or Kybosh's.

I'm sorry shi but you say this isn't a buisness in your last paragraph but EVERYTHING else you said contradicts that. I was not here when shaw left so I can't speak for that. What I can say is that I can see how a guild is "similar" to a buisness because of raid obligations etc, but I'm sorry the day I consider a game a job will be the day I quit wow. I know many may not agree with me but I know most of this guilds main raiders do it because they love it, not because it's a job.
I guess in the end some people forget that this is a GAME and you can have fun without busting everyone that walks through the doors preverbial balls.
It's a game that has to be taken seriously sometimes because I understand that it has to be done in order for a guild to function. But seriously people leave for various reasons and while a person may or not agree doesn't mean they should be castorated when they come back to he playground. If anything it's a complment not a "silver medal". DF is the shit and a great place to be I just think that in the end this is a game and most play because they enjoy it.
Just because stuff comes up IRL should blackball someone for good unless they burn bridges beforehand. That's a diff. story. Please don't take is personally but just lighten up a little shi and take it for what it is an awesome community, a great place to be, and the best playground on the block
As garreth said "they always come back". There's a reason for that.

If he was here and wasn't doing anything with anybody in guild anyway why is it a big issue that he went somewhere else and didn't do anything?  Sounds to me like he basically stopped playing and now he's back and wants to play in the sand with the rest of the cool kids on the block.  Now the question really should be is he the kind of person you all generally liked and is he someone who will do what he says/when he says. Taking a break from Wow to have a life ( or because life kicks us) should not be something that any of us are afraid to do.  It sounds like he went and talked with a friend at another playground and now he's wandered back where he feels at home.  So what's the big issue?  Does Downfall really feel the need to beat up every kid who doesn't wanna play with us anymore?  That seems sort of extreme.  I would be interested in knowing whether he is a playground wanderer rather than if he just has gone to one other server before deciding if he can play in our playpark again.  Then again...they are OUR marbles and if our team is full he may just have to sit out.

Yes, I like to heal. No, I've never been shadow.

lol... ok so here is the 411 for u guys...

ok so first i wanna state that, lol at the silver medal comment but thats not what i think you guys are, and if ur in this guild thinking that, i would think u are a silver medal then i dont know what to tell you about your own skills at playing a game that requires u to hit buttons but yah anyways...

 sooo! yes it is true i was in downfall, yes i raided with almost everyone in lf1m and im sure there are people who like me and dislike me but thats lifeand im adult enough to deal with that.

so its was along while back that i was in downfall, wasnt raiding much because i have a job that the hours are kinda screwy, and since i own my own buisness and pretty much work for myself, its kinda hard to make a game a priority over something that is my livelyhood which im sure that most all of you can understand. so since i could not make raid times and was busy most of the time my play sched was off, and with summer coming and me getting more and more on my plate and not really doing anything in the guild except be there and pvp with a few friends when they had the time. so a RLF of mine was on the server with me he had some rlf that i knew that were moving to another server, so being that they were goin to move and i really was not doing anything with the guild and wanted to try out the whole pvp thing with them to see if i liked it, i lefted. Yes i know i should have told more people and the reaseons why, and thats my fault and i understand how that would gimp me ingetting back in with yall.but honestly i didnt think anyone would really mind that i left since i had been so apsent in raiding and just being on that much. but i guess i tought wrong.

SO, BECAUSE i could do pvp anytime "so i thought" and raids are on a sched if u know what i mean it made sense!!!!! soooo getting onto the new server my bud who is also named mike joined up with this raiding guild like the next day we were on the server, so i joined up with him being that i was unguilded and what not. weeks went by we did some pvp but work just came more and more into play and i was not able to pvp as much as i wanted to so being that i just became to busy to do anything i pretty much just stoped playing cause of the time. i would get on everyonce in awhile and run through org like i always do just to mess with the horde but other than that, thats it.

so then summer started coming to an end and buisness started to slow down a lil i had more time to do things on the computer and was spending a lil more time at my house. which also is something that was going on cause i had to move to a new house of my own and get that all set up which took awhile&some change. so now that im here on gorg im here, and dont plan on going anywhere unless i quit the game which is not going to happen.

so i dont know if i explained everything i needed to but if there is more you want to hear then by all means ask. 

thanks! - MIke AKA shawdog

I wouldn't say its 30 people not doing something, but more accurately, not doing something WITH EACHOTHER.  A lot of the time people get online to do their own thing, level an alt, dailies, etc, and aren't interested in doing group activities.  I don't think those people should be described as not doing anything as that wouldn't be fair to them.  Those people don't have a lack of activities.

my meaningless vote is yes, i liked shaw. little chatty in green but so the fuck what.  hammies and lf1m got their own things goin so why not let him in, maybe with some more ppl not in established raids there will be more activites for the non hardcores. just my 3 cents

I got rid of the spelling question, though the vast majority of our apps put about as much effort into their app as wiping their ass.

Seriously, do you guys write like this at school and at your jobs?

Gah.

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I went ahead and got rid of the spelling question. It's a joke too few get and I think it's past its prime ;)

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"Yes; analogies, it turns out, can sometimes be used to draw parallels between things that are not exactly the same." - Ratgirl

"I don't appreciate being lied to." It really sounds like you are taking this a little too personal...

I am guessing mistakes are done because they were missed while proof reading or proff reading never occured.

Assuming you are being "lied to" is a bit extreme.

Edit: I has spelt wrong...

I am not sure they are trying to "piss on him" just curious why he left > disappeared > and now wants to come back.

Was he just off to find greener pastures and realized that there are none?

He has been here and seen these questions.

Shawdogg, tell what you have been up to while you were MIA. Put more effort in... If I remember correct you were liked  by a lot of members right from the start.

Shaw, if you really want to get back into DF you need to put some more time in your application and take it more serious.  Explain why you left and why you're trying to come back.

No.

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