Profession Bonuses in Wrath
saedo — Wed, 10/08/2008 - 10:54
I found a nice summary on EJ written by Snowcrasher there: http://elitistjerks.com/f15/t29288-wotlk_profession_thread/p35/#post904932
Been thinking I that I'd keep Leatherworking in Wrath, but might drop Skinning. Though probably only after I level my LW. Looking at this list, maybe Alchemy for better and longer flasks. Or Blacksmiths for 2 extra sockets. Might have to see what BoP stuff is available then, but will be thinking about it in the meantime.
Summary of Profession Perks:
(This is PVE focused)
Herbalism
- New Ability: Heals for 2000 over 5 Seconds, 3 minute cooldown (Wild Growth (Rank 6))
- Items:
--- Reduces your armor by 100%, but increases your attack power by 400 for 10 sec, 1 Min Cooldown (Fire Leaf)
--- Makes you vulnerable to magic, but increases your spell power by 200 for 10 sec, 1 Min Cooldown (Fire Seed)
--- Absorbs 750 to 1250 damage. Lasts 15 sec, 2 Min Cooldown (Fel Blossom)
Mining
- 500 HP (Toughness (Rank 6))
Skinning
- 25 Crit Rating (Master of Anatomy (Rank 6))
Alchemy
- % stat bonus + 100% Duration to flasks (Mixology)
--- Flask bonus = 64 AP or 13 MP5 or 320 HP or 37 SP
- % stat bonus + 100% Duration to elixirs (Mixology)
--- Elixir bonus (Battle) = 32 AP or 19 SP or 16 STR
---- AND
--- Elixir bonus (Guardian) = 32 Res or ?
- BOP Endless Potions (reusable item, usable in Arenas)
--- Restores 1680 to 2160 health, 3 Min Cooldown (Endless Healing Potion)
--- Restores 400 to 600 mana, 3 Min Cooldown (Endless Mana Potion)
--- Restores 1680 to 2160 health and 400 to 600 mana, 3 Min Cooldown (Endless Rejuvenation Potion)
- BOP Trinkets with 40% bonus to potion effectiveness
Enchanting
- Ring Enchants (2):
--- 32 AP (Assault)
--- 19 SP (Greater Spellpower)
--- 24 Stamina (Stamina)
- BOP Wands
Jewelcrafting
- BOP Gems (can use up to 3 total, not unique, prismatic for easier socket bonuses)
--- 54 AP (Bright Dragon's Eye)
--- --- bonus (vs. Bright Cardinal Ruby) = 14 AP
--- 27 AGI (Delicate Dragon's Eye)
--- --- bonus (vs. Delicate Cardinal Ruby) = 7 AGI
--- 27 STR (Bold Dragon's Eye)
--- --- bonus (vs. Bold Cardinal Ruby) = 7 STR
--- 27 Crit Rating (Smooth Dragon's Eye)
--- --- bonus (vs. Smooth King's Amber) = 7 Crit Rating
--- 27 Haste Rating (Quick Dragon's Eye)
--- --- bonus (vs. Quick King's Amber) = 7 Haste Rating
--- 27 Hit Rating (Rigid Dragon's Eye)
--- --- bonus (vs. Rigid King's Amber) = 7 Hit Rating
--- 32 SP (Runed Dragon's Eye)
--- --- bonus (vs. Runed Cardinal Ruby) = 9 SP
--- 11 MP5 (Lustrous Dragon's Eye)
--- --- bonus (vs. Lustrous Majestic Zircon) = 3 MP5
--- 189 ArPen (Fractured Dragon's Eye)
--- --- bonus (vs. Fractured Cardinal Ruby) = 59 ArPen
--- 41 STA (Solid Dragon's Eye)
--- --- bonus (vs. Solid Majestic Zircon) = 11 STA
- BOP Trinkets
Inscription
- Extra Major glyph in place of a minor glyph (REMOVED)
- BOP shoulder enchants (also don't require exalted with The Sons of Hodir like non-inscription enchants):
--- 104 AP, 15 Crit Rating (Master's Inscription of the Axe)
--- --- bonus (vs. non-Scribe (Greater Inscription of the Axe)) = 64 AP
--- 61 SP, 6 MP5 (Master's Inscription of the Crag)
--- --- bonus (vs. non-Scribe (Greater Inscription of the Crag)) = 36 SP
--- 52 Dodge Rating, 15 Defence Rating (Master's Inscription of the Pinnacle)
--- --- bonus (vs. non-Scribe (Greater Inscription of the Pinnacle)) = 32 Dodge Rating
--- 61 SP, 15 Crit Rating (Master's Inscription of the Storm)
--- --- bonus (vs. non-Scribe (Greater Inscription of the Storm)) = 36 SP
- BOP Offhands
Blacksmithing
- Glove socket (colourless)
- Bracer Socket (colourless)
- BOP Armor - TBA?
- BOP Weapons - TBA?
Leatherworking
- BOP Leg Armors:
--- 75 AP, 22 Crit Rating (Wyrmscale Leg Armor)
--- --- bonus (vs. non-LW (Frosthide Leg Armor)) = far cheaper mats
--- 55 STA, 22 AGI (Dragonscale Leg Armor)
--- --- bonus (vs. non-LW (Icescale Leg Armor)) = far cheaper mats
- Bracer Enchants:
--- 90 STA (Fur Lining: Stamina)
--- --- bonus (vs. enchant) = 74 STA
--- 67 SP (Fur Lining: Spell Damage)
--- --- bonus (vs. Superior Spellpower enchant) = 37 SP
--- 114 AP (Fur Lining: Attack Power)
--- --- bonus (vs. enchant) = 64 AP
- Drums: (APPEAR TO BE REMOVED)
--- Increases spell power by 50 and attack power by 100 for 20 sec. (Garok's Battle)
--- Increases movement speed by 15% and haste rating by 95 for 30 sec. (Drums of Great Battle)
- BOP Armor - TBA?
Tailoring
- BOP Leg threads:
--- 50 SP, 20 SPI (Sanctified Spellthread)
--- --- bonus (vs. non-Tailor Brilliant Spellthread) = far cheaper mats
--- 50 SP, 30 STA (Master's Spellthread)
--- --- bonus (vs. non-Tailor Sapphire Spellthread) = far cheaper mats
- BOP Cloak Enchants:
--- a chance to restore 300 mana when you cast a spell (Darkglow Embroidery)
--- a chance to cause an additional 1000 to 1200 Holy damage when you damage an enemy with a spell (Lightweave Embroidery)
--- your damaging melee attacks to sometimes increase your attack power by 300 for 15 sec. (Swordguard Embroidery)
- BOP Armor - TBA?
Engineering
- Unique Item Enchants:
--- 340 Haste Rating for 8 secs to gloves, 2 min cooldown (Hyperspeed Accelerators)
- Trinkets:
--- +63 SP + Sonic Shield: Melee attacks against you have a chance to create a shield absorbing 1100 damage, once per minute max. (Noise Machine)
--- +81 STA + Sonic Awareness: Sometimes increases your attack power by 430 for 10 sec, once per minute max. (Sonic Booster)
- BOP Goggles
- Other miscellaneous BOP items
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Stat Comparisons (between professions):
Tanking:
- Mining = 500 HP
- Alchemy = 320 HP (Flask of Stoneblood)
- Enchanting = 48 STA
- Jewelcrafting = 33 STA
--- Jewelcrafting = 48 STA (counts avoiding using a red gem instead of a blue for meta requirements)
- Blacksmithing = 60 STA or 40 Def or 40 Dodge
- Leatherworking = 74 STA
- Inscription = 32 Dodge Rating
Physical DPS:
- Herbalism = 66.7AP (average, requires consumables)
- Skinning = 25 Crit rating
- Alchemy = 64 AP (Flask of Endless Rage)
- Enchanting = 64 AP
- Jewelcrafting = 42 AP or 21 AGI or 21 STR or 21 Crit Rating or 21 Haste Rating or 21 Hit Rating or 177 ArPen
--- Jewelcrafting = 62 AP or 31 AGI or 31 STR etc. (counts avoiding using a blue gem instead of a red for meta requirements)
- Blacksmithing = 80 AP or 40 AGI or 40 STR or 40 Crit Rating or 40 Haste Rating or 40 Hit Rating or 280 ArPen
- Leatherworking = 64 AP
- Inscription = 64 AP
Caster DPS / Healing:
- Herbalism = 33.3SP (average, requires consumables)
- Skinning = 25 Crit rating
- Alchemy = 37 SP (Flask of the Frost Wyrm) OR 13 MP5 (Flask of Pure Mojo)
- Enchanting = 38 SP
- Jewelcrafting = 27 SP or 21 Crit Rating or 21 Haste Rating or 21 Hit Rating or 9 MP5
--- Jewelcrafting = 49 SP (counts avoiding using 2 blue gems instead of 2 red gems for meta requirements)
- Blacksmithing = 46 SP or 21 Crit Rating or 21 Haste Rating or 21 Hit Rating or 16 MP5
- Leatherworking = 37 SP
- Inscription = 36 SP
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Notes & Comments:
- Blacksmithing, Tailoring & Leatherworking all have advantages from the BOP armor/weapons they can make that are NOT summarized here as the infomation available is far from complete
- Blacksmithing's extra sockets are considered with Epic gems for comparison purposes.
- Blacksmithing & Jewelcrafting both allow for much easier socket bonuses
--- Blacksmithing allows gem color freedom on gloves & bracers
--- Jewelcrafting allows gem color freedom in up to 3 sockets
- Jewelcrafting allows you to gain stats that the other professions don't give at all (ArPen, +hit, expertise, +def etc.)
- Jewelcrafting only gems will be way easier to obtain than the epic gems they are compared to since they are crafted from blues (depending on recipe source)
- Jewelcrafting makes meta gem requirements (especially 2 blues req.) much easier if not trivial and confers a bonus that way (avoiding having to use suboptimal gems etc.)
- Tailoring is now also a semi-gathering profession due to cloth gathering bonus<!-- google_ad_section_end --> <!-- / message --> <!-- edit note -->
So I thought I'd might as
saedo — Mon, 11/03/2008 - 14:19So I thought I'd might as well share some of my inner turmoil on what professions to be in Wrath.
Herbalism:
To fully take advantage of this dps wise, you'd have to farm up those Fire Leaves (aka new Flame Caps). It's probably gonna change but on Beta there are very very few nodes of these. But either way, this does seem like a lot of extra farming, or maybe not extra, for a 2-3 AP boost over the others.
Mining:
This being a 500 HP boost means no real dps benefit. So not for the min-maxer.
Skinning:
25 crit rating seems decent. But it's probably only at half of what it needs to be to be equivalent to the 64 AP standard. But, this does feed into LW much more easier.
Alchemy:
64 AP flask bonus and double it's length. So this is good for money saving, probably wind up using half the flasks. But looks like for mixology, it only works for flasks that you know of. I wonder if something like Marks of the Illidari will pop up and they won't be affected by it. If that's the case then probably not a money saver.
Enchanting:
64 AP bonus to the rings on the dot. Nothing else that special that would benefit me.
Jewelcrafting:
With 3 BOP better than epic quality gems that can help with socket/meta bonuses, seems to only come out to a 62 AP bonus. So a bit less than the others. Gets you trinkets too, but probably only good to start off with and replacable via raiding.
Inscription:
Another straight up 64 AP bonus.
Blacksmith:
2 extra sockets, and at the Epic Gem quality level that's 80 AP. Above the rest, but epic gems might not come out til a few patches. Definitely won't be able to use any of the armor it creates. The weapons, maybe. In TBC they kinda died by T5, no upgrade path after that with Hearts of Darkness or Sunmotes. So, long term wise, this could still be a possibility to change to. Would have to mine on another toon and or buy ore probably.
Leatherworking:
There was a recent buff to the enchant bracers AP version, so indirectly nerfed this bonus down to 64 AP with the rest of them. So far drums seems to have disappeared so it's the only bonus. Can hope for BoP armors and stuff, and they'd probably be more of use.
Tailoring:
The only thing to consider is that cloak enchant (and flying carpet). Worked out to be a 50 sec internal CD, which works out in the end to be about 46ish AP bonus from normal enchants. So not as good.
Engineering:
There's the BoP helmets of course. And the haste glove enchant which seems to work out to be probably worst off than normal enchants. So yea...
So for me to switch over, definitely need to find a boost. The ranks to me are probably:
P.S. Color coded for the ADD readers.
Wow, no more extra glyph for
garreth — Mon, 11/03/2008 - 13:03Wow, no more extra glyph for Inscribers?!
:( What do they get that's as cool instead?
Well, it technically never
saedo — Mon, 11/03/2008 - 13:26Well, it technically never existed even on Beta. It was just the talk and they didn't go through with it.
They get shoulder enchants, special BoP ones that are better than what everyone else gets. And offhands.
So far it looks like they're really trying to balance all the profession bonuses. For physical dps, that number seems to be around 64 AP give or take. Casters seem to be mostly at 37ish SP.
P.S. Guess you finally read this post when I updated it with all the formatting? lol Not getting the extra glyph isn't new news. lol
The new text boxes work
garreth — Mon, 11/03/2008 - 13:28The new text boxes work ;) Color > Attention span!
Changing in next patch:
saedo — Sat, 10/18/2008 - 01:00Changing in next patch: Enchant Bracers - Greater Assault now enchant bracers to increase attack power by 50. (Up from 38)
Dang, that means the relative value of the Fur Lining for LW goes down by 12. So it's benefits are only an additional 64 AP. Which I guess makes sense, pretty much same as the other professions.
Now I'm wondering if I should keep LW at all or go for something else. BS seems to be well ahead with its bonus. Prob going with that unless they change it too. Now to decide a 2nd one.
Assuming my druid remains a
Mavandon — Thu, 10/09/2008 - 14:42Assuming my druid remains a tank in wotlk, I may drop Alch for Leatherworking. The bracer attachments seem like they would pay off more than the health bonus would. Of course, leveling leatherworking again sounds painful.
also not nearly as
Wolfie — Thu, 10/09/2008 - 19:08also not nearly as profittable if leatherworking continues to be nearly useless for producing money.
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LW has a set of lvl 76
Adwarflol — Thu, 10/09/2008 - 19:12LW has a set of lvl 76 crafted that is amazing <_< and the exclusive patches are good aswell.
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The "exclusive patches" are
saedo — Thu, 10/09/2008 - 19:26The "exclusive patches" are merely the Epic patch using like the blue patch mats. It's cheaper for you to make the best version for yourself.
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Agreed Sorreah. I read the
Dragonspear — Thu, 10/09/2008 - 04:17Agreed Sorreah. I read the writing on the wall =(
"--Many class changes. You won't like the ones made
to your own class but you'll think the changes made to the 9 other
classes are all overpowered." ~Tigole, Blizzard CM
Between another 10 levels of
Wolfie — Wed, 10/08/2008 - 21:45Between another 10 levels of talent points, enchants, inscriptions enhancing talents/abilites, and now profession benefits.... this game is starting to get complex in an increasingly rediculous manner.
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yay and enchanters who cant
Sorreah — Wed, 10/08/2008 - 15:49yay and enchanters who cant use wands get ......
the finger
If they are going to keep
Dikymo — Wed, 10/08/2008 - 14:18If they are going to keep adding professions and levels we should get a 3rd profession slot.
Dikymo: Attacking ignorance and stupidity with ignorance AND stupidity since 1812.
Ugh I don't wnat too but
Dragonspear — Wed, 10/08/2008 - 14:10Ugh I don't wnat too but maybe I should drop Enchanting on dragonspear in favor of something else =/
"--Many class changes. You won't like the ones made
to your own class but you'll think the changes made to the 9 other
classes are all overpowered." ~Tigole, Blizzard CM
Hmm looks like cloth
saedo — Wed, 10/08/2008 - 13:44Hmm looks like cloth engineers miss out on a trinket. But that could change. You all get your eng helms, and that Haste Rating "enchant" for your gloves.
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Awesome F'n find Saedo.
Ewiges — Wed, 10/08/2008 - 13:44Awesome F'n find Saedo. Might just be your best find yet!
This is really making me think over my proffesion decision for WotLK.
WTB some love for cloth
Dikymo — Wed, 10/08/2008 - 13:39WTB some love for cloth engineers.
Dikymo: Attacking ignorance and stupidity with ignorance AND stupidity since 1812.
Yea enchanters get a BoP
saedo — Wed, 10/08/2008 - 13:35Yea enchanters get a BoP wand in which you can upgrade it to better ones similar to BS weapons.
Supposedly at least: http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?item=22450#reagent-for:0+7+1+2
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level 80 wants need void
Adwarflol — Wed, 10/08/2008 - 13:19level 80 wants need void crystals o.o is there something I'm missing?
http://wotlkwiki.info/up2/pages/prof/enchant/enchanting51bg3.jpg
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