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Drewsta — Mon, 08/30/2010 - 11:28

Having had to replace my Video card this week i've been dabbling on the newegg site for other computer upgrades and was curious about something.

 

Inside my computer (Ihave a wowcube) Above the mobo area is a metal "bracket" i guess that looks as if it could hold fans. One of the holes in the bracket sits right uder the case where there is an area for venting.

 

Is putting a fan in there acceptable, reccomened, a good idea?

 

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I have the same case and

Grasen — Tue, 08/31/2010 - 20:46

I have the same case and setup, While there is  a spot for a fan there I have never had no problems with overheating,   If your not over heating I would just leave it alone.

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Drewsta — Tue, 08/31/2010 - 08:40

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Internal fan?!

Alakuu — Tue, 08/31/2010 - 13:29

I'm not 100% sure what thats for. Looks like a fan bracket, but does it come in contact with the outside of the case? Meaning if a fan blew air through it would the air hit metal, or escape out of the case. If not I'm really not sure how much help it might be, let alone if it would help at all, or maybe just disrupt airflow.


See I'd draw up something but well my paint skills are rather lacking, basically if you drew up what the air should be doing in your case if everything was closed, then added that fan, what would that fan do? Do you think it would help? Or hurt? And also, if the fan is up against metal, it can't perform as well. simple idea but I've seen people use fans against a wall, and wonder why it can't blow air.


Currently the way I see this is, well it could be a fan mount, or it might not be. if it lacks proper air flow, either no way to get out of the case, or is in general blocked by the rest of the case, then it would do very little, if not hurt the overall heating of the computer.

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Fan Ur Ria

Drewsta — Tue, 08/31/2010 - 14:23

The cover of the case has small circular holes in which they create a circle directly above where I'd mount the fan. Basically it'd be my only "serious" cooling fan in which i'd mount it to draw air OUT of the machine, ergo it would in theory drop the temp within the case.

 

Thoughts?

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works fine then. One

Alakuu — Tue, 08/31/2010 - 16:50

works fine then. One question, your videocard, does it have a fan, and does the fan blow air around the videocard or out the back of the case? If its blowing out, then you might not have enough air in the case to have another fan blowing out. Simple test would be put everything together, and cover the hole with your hand, open it a tad and see if you have hair moving, a feather, or paper would work just as well. Other than that get a fan, put it on and see what happens =)


Its easy to just flop a fan around if you find that you have to much air one way.

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Yeah put up a picture.. my

Agoney — Mon, 08/30/2010 - 16:47

Yeah put up a picture.. my mind is mush from the gym.

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Intentional fan spot.

Ewiges — Tue, 08/31/2010 - 11:25

Intentional fan spot. However, I can't see it in the first picture to know exactly where it is at.

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Take a picture of the area if

Ghli — Mon, 08/30/2010 - 11:36

Take a picture of the area if you can.

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Pic

Drewsta — Mon, 08/30/2010 - 11:37

Ill have one up by the end of raid tonight

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Case fan...

Alakuu — Mon, 08/30/2010 - 12:42

If its above the heatsink of the cpu or basically around where it would be on the actual case then yes, its a very high probability of being a case fan slot. Now adding a fan is good in general but a few things you should think about first...


1. When a computer tower case is closed you basically have a box, with 4 hot spots. That being in order of heat production (at least imo) CPU, Powersupply, Videocard, RAM.


2. This heat builds up, and well its bad in general. More heat = more chance of failure. So heat is redirected to elsewhere. This is done in two ways. Either liquid, or Air. IE liquid cooling pump etc, and secondly heatsinks and fans.


3. The most ideal way of removing heat with the choice of air is to have moving air hit said hot spots, and then excape out of the case. Now heat rises. so the best way is to have your intakes being lower, and not directly at the hot spots. And your exits being normally above or somewhat generally near the hot spots.


4. Not all air is equal. Fans move air, in CFM you want just about equal CFM for both in and out. If your pushing more air in than is going out you firstly create pressure, and secondly wear out all of your fans. So make sure that you take that into account.


But in general I've found taking a table top fan, opening my computer and blasting air onto the center of the computer to do the best job. That is though just dependent on heat sinks, which move a specific amount of heat. So in the end no amount of air flow can fix a crummy heat sink, or one covered in layers of dust.


Hope that generally helps. You can do more harm than help by adding a fan improperly, expecially if you destroy the flow of air that currently exists.  A little tip, if I remember correct the sticker on any case fan (the one on the bearing) is the direction the air flows.

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Drewsta — Mon, 08/30/2010 - 12:55

Basically there is an area above where the PCI slows lay, where the case has circular slotted vent area and then a metal peice in where it looks as if I can mount a fan. I'd set it up so the fan is pulling air FROM the machine and pushing it out. Not sure if that's ok

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Anything is fine.

Alakuu — Mon, 08/30/2010 - 16:00

It would work either way, its just a suggestion to improve things by adding a fan that fits the sitation, not just in size but in power. If you get what I mean? Throwing anything in there will work. But thats not to say it wouldn't cause a build up in air or force your intake fans to go faster. All of which add wear. How much its probably very little, if its got mounting holes, and a fan would actually fit in it, (mind you theres thicker fans, thinner fans, just about anything you could think of out there) then adding it would probably help.


If you have had issues with heating what I've found is at least with ATI videocards is that they wait till they're really hot, then start cooling themselves off. I have a 4870 and if I let it run as the computer would have it, it would reach about 90c, then cool off, and bounce back and forth, but instead I opened up ATI control, and set the fan speed to 35%, even when I'm gaming the Vcard never gets above 70c. sure the fan might wear out faster, but my card takes far less heat damage. Just a thought, and it might help! Keeping that tempature down keeps my motherboard and cpu colder too.

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